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Old April 29th, 2007 Apr 29, 2007 9:13:31 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Patone Colors / Spot Colors... Uh?

According to the F&M user guide:

All colors used in your design should be a spot color and be designated as such.
The artwork should not contain process black or any other process color. All colors should be listed as the color that is to be used. Please use Pantone® colors.

All fonts used in your design should be converted to curves (Corel Draw®) or outlines (Illustrator®).
This allows you to use fonts from any commercial font manufacturer. Your fonts do not travel with your file and will default when opened in our system. To avoid delays and possible errors please convert all text to curves before sending files to us.

Onto the questions!

I have Illustrator CS2...

1. How do I set the colors to Pantone?
2. What do they mean by spot?
3. What is process color?
4. How do I convert text to outlines?

EDIT: 1 additional question...

Your Design should be in vector format.
All of the artwork contained in these files should be in vector format. Files that contain placed images, such as bitmaps or other linked formats, will only be used as guides from which the artwork will be re-drawn. Creative Service charges may be incurred.

5. Is artwork created in Illustrator automatically vector? Or is this something that needs to be done at the end?


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Old April 30th, 2007 Apr 30, 2007 1:46:48 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Patone Colors / Spot Colors... Uh?

Hi empyre, here you go:

1. To set Pantone colors go to the Swatches palette on the right in Illustrator. Click on the little black arrow in the circle in the top right corner of the palette and click Open Swatch Library. From there you can choose from one of the Pantone libraries, I would go for Pantone solid coated. Now click an object in your design and click on the desired Pantone swatch, set.

2 & 3. The following link has more info on spot colors vs. process colors: Graphics - spot vs. process color

4. Select the text you want to outline then press Shift+Ctrl+O, outlined.

5. Yes, created artwork in Illustrator is by default vector format. But on the end you can choose to rasterize your artwork so it becomes raster format, like a picture. Depending on your situation you may want to let your local printer do that for you, as some of them work with different raster settings.
 
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I have Illustrator CS2...

1. How do I set the colors to Pantone?
Window -> Swatch Libraries -> Pick one (I use Pantone Solid Coated)

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2. What do they mean by spot?
Spot colour is WYSIWYG colour: if you want purple, you print purple (not blue and red).

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3. What is process color?
CMYK printing.

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4. How do I convert text to outlines?
Type -> Create Outlines

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5. Is artwork created in Illustrator automatically vector?
Yes. Images brought into Illustrator are not automatically vector, but images created in Illustrator are.
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Old April 30th, 2007 Apr 30, 2007 8:57:12 AM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Patone Colors / Spot Colors... Uh?

Thanks guys! Just three questions then...

1. So Pantone Colors (solid) are considered spot colors then?

2. Say I have to take an image created in Photoshop and move it over to Illustrator, how do I convert this to a vector image?

3. So if CMYK is process color, do I want to select an RGB image for my template? Is there any other options that should be selected when setting up my canvas?

Any other helpful hints are welcome! Thanks again!
 
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Default Re: Patone Colors / Spot Colors... Uh?

1. Yes, Pantone colors are spot colors.

2. In Illy look at the top nav bar and click File > Place and place your picture. Now you can Live Trace the pic. Play around with all the options untill you get the desired result.

3. RGB is mostly fine... but ask your local printer for this to make sure
 
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Fantastic! Unless anyone else has anything to add, I think that's everything!

I appreciate it guys!
 
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Old April 30th, 2007 Apr 30, 2007 11:23:17 AM -   #7 (permalink)
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Default Re: Patone Colors / Spot Colors... Uh?

just two more cents: i suggest checking the pantone colors you pick against a hard copy swatchbook so that you have a better idea of what you are getting. depending on your monitor and various other factors, the colors you see on screen won't necessarily be the colors you have spec'd in the file.
 
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I absolutely agree with baumwolle, I just had a job go wrong for me where I didn't double check.
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just two more cents: i suggest checking the pantone colors you pick against a hard copy swatchbook so that you have a better idea of what you are getting. depending on your monitor and various other factors, the colors you see on screen won't necessarily be the colors you have spec'd in the file.
Absolutely true, forgot to mention that

Sorry to hear your print job went wrong scpromos, but we all have to learn from our mistakes. Making mistakes are the best lessons in life, as long as you learn from them
 
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Keep in mind that just because you bring a picture in illustrator and convert it to vector doesnt necessarily mean that it is true vector format. Vector format has different properties than a jpeg, gif, bmp etc. I just remade a logo for a local bodyshop because all he had was a picture of it and nothing else. With vector graphics you can enlarge the graphic to an almost infinate size without losing any quality. You try to do that with a raster file (jpeg) it will turn out looking like a bunch of big squares . . . . . . .
 
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Absolutely true, forgot to mention that

Sorry to hear your print job went wrong scpromos, but we all have to learn from our mistakes. Making mistakes are the best lessons in life, as long as you learn from them
It was a good lesson, luckily it was a personal job for me and not a client.
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Any idea on where I could find one of these Pantone color swatch books?
 
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Any idea on where I could find one of these Pantone color swatch books?
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pantone swatch books are kinda expensive..more like very...

for books that are essentiall pages with color on them


but what can ya do *sigh*
 
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