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Old February 11th, 2007 Feb 11, 2007 8:09:28 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Hello,
I am a web and graphic designer. I normally go by the alias gio~logist. However, it wouldn't let me register here with that name. Anyways, enough about me, lets get on to business.

Recently, I've come up with the idea to start designing shirts. I am looking to do the following:
  • Have the inside logos (where it normally says the brand) have my logo instead. Not sure if this has to be embroidered or not.
  • Screen printing that offers printing for up to 6 colors (including white, i was recently told that white counts as a color even if on a white shirt?)
  • I already have the website designed and ready, just need to find the right way to have my shirts printed and sold.
  • Any way to sell on a order and then print basis as far as with the printing companies? (If the better and more affordable companies do not offer, that's ok)
  • I am looking for something affordable. However, quality is still a must, so i am flexible.
Thank you in advance for any help,
Giovanni Martinez

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Old February 11th, 2007 Feb 11, 2007 8:36:42 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Have the inside logos (where it normally says the brand) have my logo instead. Not sure if this has to be embroidered or not.
For that you want to look at getting tags made and relabelling, or printing directly into the neck of the shirt.

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Screen printing that offers printing for up to 6 colors (including white, i was recently told that white counts as a color even if on a white shirt?)
White is a colour when it's a colour. If you need to print it, it's a colour. If you don't, it's not. So no, of course it's not a colour on a white shirt. Dark shirts often require a white underbase, so a black shirt may use white even though you can't see any in the final design.

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Any way to sell on a order and then print basis as far as with the printing companies? (If the better and more affordable companies do not offer, that's ok)
Various fulfillment services. There's generally a quality loss and a convenience advantage going that way. More affordable if you're doing low volume, but less affordable if you're doing good sales.
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Thanks for the help there Solmu. Any links to sites that offer what you mentioned? I've looked at hundreds (easily) in the past couple of weeks, and nothing suites my needs.
 
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Any links to sites that offer what you mentioned?
Fulfillment services? The big ones are PrintMojo, CafePress, Spreadshirt, and Zazzle.
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I noticed with cafe express it's mostly to sell their shirts, is it not? When i try click "Sell Your Own Shirts" (i believe that's what it said) the price stayed 8.99 the whole way, and i doubt it's 8.99 for a 10" 5-6 colored design. But if it is, great.

Do these sites offer the logo inside the shirt and all of that?

Hm, it seems that most of these sites require you to use their site for a shop (i will be making the site myself).

Some things i've noticed you need to look out for at times (obviously, i'm sure you know this):
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You retain all ownership rights to your Content. However, by submitting Content to Zazzle, you grant Zazzle a nonexclusive, worldwide, transferable license to copy, crop, reproduce, publicly display, and distribute your Content. If your Content is uploaded as a design for products available on this Site, you grant the additional rights set forth in the Non-Exclusive License Agreement.
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PrintMojo does not own anything you upload to our servers.

You retain all rights to your artwork, designs and intellecutal property.

To legally operate, we need to have the ability to use the images you upload. This is called a license. Your PrintMojo account allows you to give us a free license to use the images for the following purposes:

Printing onto items your buy as inventory to sell in your shop.
Creating product shots and ads to help you promote your store.

We will always say the images we use of yours are yours.

You are free to use your images with any other service.
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When you submit questions, comments, suggestions, ideas, message board postings, material submitted via web forms, contest entries, communications or any other information ("Submissions"), you grant CafePress.com permission to use such Submissions for marketing and other promotional purposes, including the right to sublicense. You agree that CafePress.com will have no obligation to keep any Submissions confidential. You will not bring a claim against CafePress.com based on "moral rights" or the likes arising from CafePress.com's use of a Submission. This Section does not apply to your Content that you use in connection with the Create & Buy Service or Shopkeeper Service.
Seems like most of these major websites want your designs more than your business heh.

Once again, thank you for your help Lewis

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Welcome to the T-Shirt Forums, Giovanni!

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Yes, with CafePress, the base price for a white t-shirt with unlimited colors printed in one location would be $8.99. You would markup the shirt above that to determine your profit. They use a technology callled "Direct to Garment" printing that doesn't have the same setup requirements as traditional screen printing. The quality isn't the same as screen printing, but it can work for many designs.

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Do these sites offer the logo inside the shirt and all of that?
CafePress doesn't, but PrintMojo does. I think RawTalentInc.com does as well.

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Hm, it seems that most of these sites require you to use their site for a shop (i will be making the site myself).
You can make your own site with just about all of the services. However, unless you are going to be processing your own credit card transactions, then the final checkout process will happen on the fulfillment company's secure servers.

If you do plan to process the transactions yourself and store the shirts in your office, then you don't really need a fulfillment company. Any local screen printer should be able to print up t-shirts for your and ship them to you. Some screen printers also offer "finishing services" like folding/bagging and relabeling.


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Seems like most of these major websites want your designs more than your business heh.
What makes you say that?

In each of the quotes you posted they explicitly say that they *don't* own your designs and that you retain all rights to your original designs.

They just have to "use" your designs, just as any printer would. So they can print out the design you ask them to when you ask them to.
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Just a quick not on the white colour statement. Most printers use the shirt color (white) for the white inthe design. If the design is of a higher end type print I would reccomend printing white, even on a white shirt. Most of the time this would be considered a highlight white and if used properly can make a major diference in the final print.
- this is usually only used on higher end type prints.
 
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