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Old August 21st, 2005 Aug 21, 2005 11:50:34 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Hey gang,

We are thinking about offering free shipping on all of our shirts, but we're not sure how we can do it without taking a major hit. Is first class mail really that much cheaper than priority mail? Right now, we ship everything priority and charge 4 dollars shipping/handling.

I also understand that with first class mail, you would need to purchase your own shipping supplies. We currently get all of our supplies free from USPS but would be more than happy to pick up our own supplies if it proves to be cost effective.

Did a quick websearch and found this for shipping t-shirts:

http://www.uline.com/ProductDetail.a...-5617&ref=1551

This is not an endorsement for that site. In fact, I've never dealt with them before. What I would like to know is if anyone else ships with Polyolefin Mailers, and if so, do you find them effective for shipping?

I recall reading a thread on this topic a few days ago but can't seem to find it right now. Someone in that thread something to the effect of: "each shirt will cost approx one dollar to ship via first class". Can this be confirmed? If it can, it really seems like first class mail and polyolefin mailers may be the way to go. That is, if shipping isn't too slow.

Thanks for any info.

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Old August 22nd, 2005 Aug 22, 2005 2:23:17 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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You can get shipping rates from www.usps.com . A t-shirt weighs about a half a pound (unless it's a heavier weight XL or above size).

I would stay away from free shipping offers unless you can include the shipping price in the price of the t-shirt. Priority Mail is the best way to send a shirt using USPS because of the free delivery confirmation, better handling and speed of delivery (plus the free shipping supplies).
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Old August 22nd, 2005 Aug 22, 2005 2:37:09 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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As a point of reference, I just got a t-shirt from threadless that was shipped first class mail.

The package weighed 10 oz and cost $2.57 to ship. Those bags that you linked to look similar to the tyvek bag provided by usps priority mail (just a different material type). .18 cents per package doesn't seem like a bad price at all.

I'm not sure the slower delivery time and the lack of tracking would be worth it, but that's just my opinion.
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Old August 22nd, 2005 Aug 22, 2005 4:34:45 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks for all the info. I think I'm gonna hold off for now since it would require revising hundreds of ebay listings.

Down the road I think I will incorporate the shipping charges into the price of the shirts and offer "free" shipping, but that can wait. Just trying to find a way to get a leg up on the competition. heheheh...

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Old August 29th, 2005 Aug 29, 2005 8:23:25 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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If you use first class, you can get a reduced price electronic rate for DC of
$.13 per package, but you have to use a printing service like stamps.com. This service is free through Pitney Bowes (sp?) if you use paypal. For future reference, you may want to purchase a small scale and some of those bags. You may be able to save about $1-$1.50 on shipping for one t-shirt order if you decide to offer fs in the future.
 
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Old August 29th, 2005 Aug 29, 2005 9:35:07 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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I recently ordered a t-shirt and S&H charges were $5.99. After 5 days I started looking to track, was not available. I received the shirt (ladies Amer. Apparel) on the 10th day. It was shipped First Class in a tyvek bag at a cost of $1.29. I was not impressed with the charges for an item shipped First Class. I know, for me, I will be shipping Priority Mail for the tracking and speed.
As a customer, I would have been much happier with my purchase had they used Priority Mail.
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I don't really care how it is shipped; I'd prefer to wait an extra two or three days and save a few bucks, generally. However, I do get pretty miffed when someone charges significantly more for shipping than the actual cost of shipping (such as DFras mentioned).
 
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If you are selling on ebay, it is better not to offer free shipping. You will pay more money for the listing, and customers will be scared away by higher prices. With ebay, it is best to charge more for shipping and less for the shirt. You will make more money that way, since ebay does not include the shipping price in their final value fees.
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Old August 30th, 2005 Aug 30, 2005 2:02:20 PM -   #9 (permalink)
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Default Re: Shipping

Thanks for all the input. It is hard to decide which way to go, but based on sales trends, I think I'm going to keep things the way they are.

People don't seem to mind paying a few extra bucks for shipping if you keep the cost of your shirts at a reasonable rate.

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Your shirts are already on the very low end of the t-shirt spectrum in terms of cost, so offering free shipping as well would probably not be a good idea at all IMO.
 
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Old August 30th, 2005 Aug 30, 2005 3:38:25 PM -   #11 (permalink)
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Your shirts are already on the very low end of the t-shirt spectrum in terms of cost, so offering free shipping as well would probably not be a good idea at all IMO.
Our prices are fairly inexpensive, but if you browse ebay, you will see many people selling shirts for six dollars or less. I'm really just trying to compete in a very crowded market. From time to time I see someone selling a t-shirt on ebay for over 15 dollars and have to wonder how they are selling any shirts at all.

The website is a whole different beast and once we are able to get away from the "cart" site and away from heat transfers, we plan on introducing a new price structure. Even then, we only plan on raising prices by a dollar or two across the board.

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We just put our new shirt site online...we were thinking of adding shipping into the cost of the shirt, but we decided against it, although I've seen a lot of european sites doing this. Makes me think the shirt is too expensive though, I like shipping and the shirt cost seperate. Rock.

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Well, the average that I've seen is about $15-16. Some go for $10, some go for $25, most go about $14-18.
 
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Well, the average that I've seen is about $15-16. Some go for $10, some go for $25, most go about $14-18.
That does sound about right for websites, it's much tougher to sell at those escalated prices on ebay. I am currently able to sell shirts at the current price because we use Hanes Heavyweight T-Shirts. No complaints so far, but I would only contemplate selling shirts for $15 if we were to switch to Hanes Beefy Tee's.

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I sell on eBay for $16 per t-shirt. Not selling a ton, but it is t-shirts for a very specific market, so I don't think my audience is too big. But nobody has complained about the cost - it is higher quality Ts than Hanes or Fruit of the Loom, and I think people realize that you pay for the quality. And some of the Ts have 6 color screenprinting on it, so I need to ask more than somebody having one color screenprinting on one side of the T-shirt. Anyway, just wanted to say that it is possible to ask more on eBay, if you offer the quality.
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