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Old December 22nd, 2008 Dec 22, 2008 3:32:52 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default can you get me started on trademarking?

this process seems so confusing and im very very very worried that my brand name might be taken already

if so ill be so discouraged because my whole brand revolves around it! ill literally have to start from the drawing board again!


i want to get trademarked asap but have no idea how ...government files always confuse me so please give some tips. will be very thankful
 
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Old December 22nd, 2008 Dec 22, 2008 7:39:59 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: can you get me started on trademarking?

if the TM is that important, go to a lawyer.
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Old December 22nd, 2008 Dec 22, 2008 8:19:33 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: can you get me started on trademarking?

Hi there,

If you Google "Trademark Electronic Search System" (or TESS) it will take you to the Trademark Office's database, where you can search to see if your name has already been taken. You just type it in and hit go - very easy. If it doesn't seem to have been taken, then why not hire Legalzoom.com to file the TM for you? A lot of people use them for various legal matters they don't want to do themselves. If this name is the only one you want, then don't hesitate - file before someone else does.

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Old December 22nd, 2008 Dec 22, 2008 8:27:08 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: can you get me started on trademarking?

inkie. when i typed in my brand name, a result came up. but it said the owner or whatever is deceased and that it was abandoned in 2003

it also had the word "ebusiness" in between words...i dont know if that makes a difference??

either way, is this a safe name or is it in use?

its a company based in california using it...the thing is my "brand name" is just a phrase...its not a particular word or anything like that, so im not sure how can you tm a phrase of regular english words? does this matter?
 
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Old December 22nd, 2008 Dec 22, 2008 10:34:36 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: can you get me started on trademarking?

Hi Peter,

Well, I am no lawyer and I am not giving legal advice, all I know is what I read on the Web - that trademark law only protects marks that are being used, and that non-use for three consecutive years is considered abandonment and the rights to the trademark would be lost. Since the person is dead there can be no intent to resume use. Whether this means that the phrase is now available for you to go after is a question for a trademark attorney. Or try calling the Trademark Assistance Center at 1-800-786-9199.
Regarding trademarking a phrase, according to our pal Rodney, you can trademark a phrase if you can prove that the phrase is also a brand. There is a whole string on this subject here on the Forum - try to search "can you trade mark a phrase?" here on Forum.
Hope this helps and good luck,

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Old December 22nd, 2008 Dec 22, 2008 10:37:12 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: can you get me started on trademarking?

thats great news! i hope i can use it!

and very funny...i literally clicked this topic 1-2 seconds before you posted your response! soon as the page loaded your new reponse was up there! thats very good timing on my part!
 
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Old December 22nd, 2008 Dec 22, 2008 10:55:27 PM -   #7 (permalink)
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Glad I could help, good luck and best wishes for 2009!

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Old December 23rd, 2008 Dec 23, 2008 10:40:13 AM -   #8 (permalink)
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Default Re: can you get me started on trademarking?

Call the trademark assistance # here: 1-800-786-9199 ...you can even talk to a real person, and they are very helpful and will tell you what to do step by step.

It is not uncommon to find multiple trademarks filed for the same name or brand, however in order for these to be live and legal, they must be distinctly different and not in competition with each other.

For example: the name "CalFlex" may have multiple trademarks filed one for a company that manufactures flexible tubing and the other company with a trademark on the same name is a clothing company. they are not in any kind of competition with each other, so they can both trademark the "calflex" name for their own industry.

Also Your brand name is still available, I just answered your same questions in your other thread here:
https://www.t-shirtforums.com/genera...on/t70663.html

The abandoned trademark on your brand, was for a web hosting company...completely unrelated to your clothing brand, so you can still file your trademark for your clothing brand name.
 
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Default Re: can you get me started on trademarking?

so after i finalize the logo, i should go directly to legal zoom with a jpeg image of it and trademark both the logo and brand name asap?

is that what the next step is? or am i missing anything? should i trademark something else?
 
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Default Re: can you get me started on trademarking?

Hi Peter,

It seems to me that this would be the next step in the process of setting up your business (or one of the more important steps, anyway, so it should be done as soon as you are able.) It is exactly what I plan to do - when I get the $$, which I hope is soon! Logo searches, from what I have read, are a little more difficult to do than a name search - it is very easy to have similarities to someone else's design, and it is difficult to determine how much overlap is permissible with designs that have already been registered, so just try to make your logo as unique as possible before you spend the money. Then Legalzoom will tell you how to proceed from there.

Good luck and Happy Holidays!
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Old December 25th, 2008 Dec 25, 2008 5:16:28 PM -   #11 (permalink)
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Default Re: can you get me started on trademarking?

Take a look at the Nike Swoosh, and the design on a pack of Newport (I think) cigs. Their swoosh is identical, except rotated 180 degrees.
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Old December 29th, 2008 Dec 29, 2008 11:22:07 AM -   #12 (permalink)
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Default Re: can you get me started on trademarking?

i have this same question .......... i have a brand NAME that i would like to legally own, but the brand name is what is going to be printed on everything. and I have about 15 different logos .... are you supposed to trademark every logo, or just the NAME???
 
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Default Re: can you get me started on trademarking?

good question! i would like to know the answer to that as well

and im surprised you have so many logos.. i didnt know peopel did that, i thought one was all that was necessary
 
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i have this same question .......... i have a brand NAME that i would like to legally own, but the brand name is what is going to be printed on everything. and I have about 15 different logos .... are you supposed to trademark every logo, or just the NAME???
It really is up to you which ones you decide to apply for a trademark for. Some people don't ever apply for a trademark and sell just fine for years. Some people do it before they start. Same with copyrights.

I think in "general", people *trademark* the "brand" and *copyright* the individual designs.
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Default Re: can you get me started on trademarking?

I would look on the trademark page uspto.gov, and read up on trademarking a standard character mark. I believe with this type of trademark it is on the word and not the logo.
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