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Old May 27th, 2008 May 27, 2008 1:43:14 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default giving out shirts..tax write off question

so when you give out gear for promotions and the like, how do you write it off...

do you write off just the cost of the shirt ($7)

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do you write off the total price of the shirt ($25)




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Old May 27th, 2008 May 27, 2008 2:34:39 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: giving out shirts..tax write off question

You write off what the shirts cost you to buy or create them.

not what the retail is..
 
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Old May 28th, 2008 May 28, 2008 12:37:26 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: giving out shirts..tax write off question

Hi
Great question! here is a website with details on how to 'write off' that sample giveaway..if you use QB

Inventory Freebies

I am trying to play catchup in QB Pro 2007 for all of the samples I have given away since startup last fall.
 
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Default Re: giving out shirts..tax write off question

Thanks for the link, answered a few questions I had as well.
 
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Old May 28th, 2008 May 28, 2008 1:47:30 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: giving out shirts..tax write off question

i'll look into it...

i prolly gave out about 65% of my gear.... to artists/etc.... and i have to play catchup with numbers/etc...

and i hate accounting......... i just need to buy quickbooks already and stop complaining

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Old May 28th, 2008 May 28, 2008 5:19:33 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: giving out shirts..tax write off question

what i did, last year, is write off like someone said earlier, "just the cost to buy or create them" and i just used it towards the cost of advertising.
 
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Old May 29th, 2008 May 29, 2008 6:11:17 PM -   #7 (permalink)
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Default Re: giving out shirts..tax write off question

You should had expensed it anyways probably when you purchased it, the ink used, and the labor if you paid someone. You can not take another deduction because you now gave it away. There is just no income to report thus it comes out in the end. That is probably for a cash based accounting business rather than accural.
 
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Old May 29th, 2008 May 29, 2008 6:46:21 PM -   #8 (permalink)
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Default Re: giving out shirts..tax write off question

Yep, exactly what the shirt cost you to create. T-shirt, transfer paper/vinyl, packaging (if it was packaged), postage (if posted). Apart from inks (if used). This is calculated at the end of year financials. Just because inks you can't account on how much you can exactly print. This will come under advertising expenses.
This is what I have done in the past.
But also I don't know if every countries taxation system is the same?

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Default Re: giving out shirts..tax write off question

if you give the shirt away you are going to need to pay sales tax on it also.
 
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Default Re: giving out shirts..tax write off question

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if you give the shirt away you are going to need to pay sales tax on it also.
This should depend on how you account for it. If it is a zero sale to a customer, then you are responsible for collecting tax but if you write it off inventory or account for it in your advertising budget, then no tax is due as far as I know. According to the accounting books I've read, they suggest writing it off as advertising.
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Default Re: giving out shirts..tax write off question

if you write it off in advertising.... shouldnt you be able to write off some sort of profit margin or anything else that is more than the costs of making/printing the shirt?

like if i made 50 shirts and it cost me 500 bucks (just for example)...and i gave them all out....then basically i'm out 500 bucks plus my time to create the design/run around/etc..... so there should be more to exclude from this...

i should be able to write off my time that i spend working on something.... even though i cant get paid, there should be some sort of percentage or hourly writeoff.........
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I'm fairly certain you can only write off the cost of materials to produce the advertising. I read a book a while back titled Deduct It that covers these subjects very thoroughly and they produce a new edition each year to cover changes in the tax laws, you should look for this book in your local library or bookstore.
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Default Re: giving out shirts..tax write off question

Wormil has it right! You can't charge yourself for printing your own shirts for advertising. If you did, it would have to be reported as income....which means you pay taxes.
 
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Default Re: giving out shirts..tax write off question

i dont print the shirts....

what if you pay a designer for a design for the shirt that you give away..... so then you can write off the designer expense then too....i would believe........
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Default Re: giving out shirts..tax write off question

If you pay someone to print the shirt for you, you should be able to write off that cost. I believe you can write off the cost if you hire a designer but I'm not certain, this would be akin to hiring an advertising agency. Some of this stuff can be tricky, I wouldn't take anyone's word over the internet at face value, consult with your accountant or at least read up on the subject.
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