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Old May 21st, 2008 May 21, 2008 4:43:22 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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I have been trying to start my own clothing line..since every lrg shirt or anything you see in the store is just a heat transfer anyway...and they charge a arm and a leg for a shirt. I was wondering is anyone else doing this and making money?...do you see results? I orderd the press and the clothes and the top of the line transfer paper. Is this all i need. I know im all over the place but any feedback and tips will help.. Thanks guys
 
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Actually, very little of what you see in retail stores is a heat transfer.

Most of it is screen printing, using various kinds of inks for different effects.

If you want to enter that game with a heat press and make it "worth it" as you put it, you're going to be limited to using plastisol transfers.

It will be extremely difficult to enter the world of the LRG's with regular heat pressed designs.
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Old May 21st, 2008 May 21, 2008 7:27:42 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Actually, very little of what you see in retail stores is a heat transfer.

Most of it is screen printing, using various kinds of inks for different effects.

If you want to enter that game with a heat press and make it "worth it" as you put it, you're going to be limited to using plastisol transfers.

It will be extremely difficult to enter the world of the LRG's with regular heat pressed designs.
Actually a lot of what you see in the stores is made with transfers. What happens is the companies get plastisol transfers made and then ship to another company that presses them on the shirts. I did business with a mulitmillion company that does this. They just bought a whole bunch of my TSI.. How neat is that..
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Old May 21st, 2008 May 21, 2008 7:49:43 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Good going Lou
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Old May 21st, 2008 May 21, 2008 8:06:40 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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Actually a lot of what you see in the stores is made with transfers. What happens is the companies get plastisol transfers made and then ship to another company that presses them on the shirts. I did business with a mulitmillion company that does this. They just bought a whole bunch of my TSI.. How neat is that..
A lot, maybe, but not anywhere close to the amount that's screen printed.

Especially, companies like LRG, which the OP referenced. Lots of their stuff is over the seam, side wrap-arounds, etc. Definitely not done with a transfer.

They get their stuff done by huge companies, mainly in Asia. Almost all of those companies screen print fabric, either before it's sewn, or after construction.

But, adding a step like using a plastisol transfer makes no sense for them when they can print directly to the fabric or garment.
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A lot, maybe, but not anywhere close to the amount that's screen printed.

Especially, companies like LRG, which the OP referenced. Lots of their stuff is over the seam, side wrap-arounds, etc. Definitely not done with a transfer.

They get their stuff done by huge companies, mainly in Asia. Almost all of those companies screen print fabric, either before it's sewn, or after construction.

But, adding a step like using a plastisol transfer makes no sense for them when they can print directly to the fabric or garment.
Actually it is a logistics situation. Transfers made off shore and sent to factories here in USA where people just stand behind presses and press.
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Exactly.

That's why the whole garment is made offshore. The garment and the printing, which is directly to the garment.

There's no reason to print onto a transfer offshore, ship that transfer here, onto a garment that was made offshore.

Which is why again, companies like LRG which the OP is talking about don't do it that way.

No one can compete with companies like that, if all you have is a heat press.

Maybe you should take a look at some of LRG's stuff, then you will clearly see why this statement just isn't fact:

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since every lrg shirt or anything you see in the store is just a heat transfer anyway
Most of their stuff, and every other company of their caliber has their garments screen printed, not heat transfered.
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What is a plastisol transfer?...where can get those made? What is the difference between screen printing and transfers..? And does anyone own a LRG tee.? because i can feel the logo over the shirt. It feels like a big sticker that has been glued into the shirt.I own alot of them. I feel like all i need is good clothes and high quality paper and some fresh designs. The only difference i see is im just one man and not a factory. Does anyone know if i could get my designs screen printed on transfer paper? and where could i get my designs printed on transfer paper for bulk? Thank you everyone for all your time and help. STEVE
 
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A plastisol transfer is a screen printed design printed on special transfer paper to be applied later by using a heat press.

Basically, it is an indirect way of screen printing. The screen printed design is printed backwards on the transfer paper, you store the paper for when you need the design. When you're ready to print your design, you pull out your trusty heat press, and press away.

When you lift the paper, the only thing that remains is the ink. Much like if the shirt was directly screen printed.

For a good place to start, you can check out part of Rodney's "diary":
a review of 8 different custom plastisol transfer screen printers - samples followup

The logo on your LRG shirts are probably printed with plastisol inks that have a heavy hand to them. Meaning the ink sits on top of the shirt, and you can really feel it there.

I really doubt if it's heat pressed.
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And does anyone own a LRG tee.? because i can feel the logo over the shirt. It feels like a big sticker that has been glued into the shirt.I own alot of them. I feel like all i need is good clothes and high quality paper and some fresh designs.
I own alot of LRG stuff and I can say as far as the tees, some are heat transfers and some are screenprinted. Yes I agree that having good quality clothes and designs is where to start but you are underestimating brand recognition. LRG can basically throw their name on anything now and people will buy it. Marketing is a big key to being successful in my opinion so you need to identify your market and work at building up your brand....just advice from someone who is trying to do the same thing as you. Good luck.
 
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Actually, very little of what you see in retail stores is a heat transfer.

Most of it is screen printing, using various kinds of inks for different effects.

If you want to enter that game with a heat press and make it "worth it" as you put it, you're going to be limited to using plastisol transfers.

It will be extremely difficult to enter the world of the LRG's with regular heat pressed designs.
ok so can i get plastisol heat transfres made then press them with my heatpress?
 
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yep you absolutely can that is what they are great for, and you can apply them as you get orders.
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I recently went to a very large volleyball tournament where the did this and it makes total economic sense for these type of functions where you are doing a one time design. I was pretty impressed with how well they came out too...but durability is where I have questions and also the limitations for printing on dark shirts which I have heard about make i a difficult choice for me.
 
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Jaycen,

They have plasitols for dark shirts. They simply apply a white layer over the color layer and it makes them opaque so they can be applied to darks as well. I am not sure which companies do the ones for darks but I know they are able to be made.
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yea but..where can i get my own designs and logos printed to plastisols?? for a good price and quality?
 
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