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Cult Zero · April 3rd, 2008

Hi All,

I've been using a Roland vinyl cutting system for the past three years and have been extremely happy with the results. However due to an increase in sales recently, it simply is too time consuming to weed out every image.

As every t-shirt is custom-made, screen printing is not an option. So that leaves me with sublimation I guess.

Whenever I've used an iron on print in the past I haven't been very happy with the results, there always seems to be unwanted residue or the colours haven't worked out correctly.

Could someone direct me to any decent systems that I should look at regardless of budget.

Thanks in advance.

perrolocodesigns · April 3rd, 2008

DTG printers would provide what you want, but they are expensive.

Screenanator · April 3rd, 2008

I would say a Roland sp or vp 300 or 540....then use Impressions Opaque stretch for darks...and Impressions clear for lights....they aslo have a mettalic than can be printed on and applied to shirts to gice you the chorme look right on a t shirt !!...not to mention they have vintage puff....we have been in the screen printing and embroidery businees for over 7 years....and have NEVER been as excited about anything as our Roland printer...not to mention it makes decals...signs....photo quality enlargements on artist canvas...a DTG will only make you shirts...a Roland Versacamm print/cut machine will make you MONEY !!!....sure they cost around 18k...but what does a DTG cost ya?...and thats a shirt only machine....just my opinion..take it or leave it.
heres some vidoes of it working...
YouTube - Roland Versacamm Demo
heres a Roland demo video showing you the machines versatility...
YouTube - Roland: Take the Mystery Out of Print/Cut

Cult Zero · April 4th, 2008

Thanks Ronnie, very helpful.

Screenanator · April 4th, 2008

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Originally Posted by Cult Zero


	Thanks Ronnie, very helpful.

Any other questions you got dont hesitate....we started on our patio 7 years ago...didnt even have walls !...and now we have 2 shops and do everything from ...well we do it all just about....we even do vehicle wraps on our Roland VP 540.

perrolocodesigns · April 4th, 2008

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	a DTG will only make you shirts...

Ronnie,

Just for the record, I don't use a DTG printer or a vinyl printer/cutter.

The Versacamm does not address the main concern of the original post, which was the time consuming weeding. It also seems that t-shirts are the main business in question. I'm sure the versacamm does really nice work, but it is simply too time consuming for any larger production. I watched the YouTube video and it ran almost 10 minutes from art download to "ready to be pressed" I'm sure that number can be cut down, but it's still much slower than DTG. I believe most DTG images will print in under 2-3 minutes. If you don't need the vinyl cutting capabilities, I think a DTG would be a better investment.

Congrats on your success, keep it up

enquirer · April 5th, 2008

I do dye sublimation and vinyl and the dye sub is less time consuming than the vinyl. It's print and press but I would think the DTG would be the best to save time if you have the $$. With dye sub you have expensive shirt blanks and ink but with DTG you can use cheaper cotton shirts and of course the equipment is more expensive. Also dye sub is only for light and poly fabric. I use vinyl for darks and cotton. If you're interested in dye sub then I would recommend the epson 4800 or 4880 for larger production. My main business is for moisture wicking shirts so dye sub fits my niche. I have the 4800 with dual system-sub dye inks on one side and multipurpose ink on the other. I can do subdye and heat transfer(i've found that I don't have a demand for heat transfers. I mainly use it for tote bags) and multipurpose printing with the same printer. I have a multirip software program that uses less ink and I haven't had any trouble with spooling times or colors like others have complained about on the boards. Also with sub dye you can get into other promo products. I'm starting to do alot of koozie's now. Not a huge money maker but people like it and it goes nicey with shirt orders. I've also done coasters and mousepads and there are alot more products I plan to try.

Screenanator · April 6th, 2008

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Originally Posted by perrolocodesigns


	Ronnie, Just for the record, I don't use a DTG printer or a vinyl printer/cutter. The Versacamm does not address the main concern of the original post, which was the time consuming weeding. It also seems that t-shirts are the main business in question. I'm sure the versacamm does really nice work, but it is simply too time consuming for any larger production. I watched the YouTube video and it ran almost 10 minutes from art download to "ready to be pressed" I'm sure that number can be cut down, but it's still much slower than DTG. I believe most DTG images will print in under 2-3 minutes. If you don't need the vinyl cutting capabilities, I think a DTG would be a better investment. Congrats on your success, keep it up

We own both a GX-24 and the VP 540...the GX is our qucik fix single color solution...the VP can actually go from art to press in about 5 minutes...much fast than the SP unit in the video..if we have a big job...say...100 prints...we will let it run when we leave for the night...come in the next morning and they are ready to go it literally works while we sleep...we usually will screen print 100 pieces...but for that customer who wants a kids picture on the shirts it works best....we owned a T-Jet....I say owned...because when the Roland showed up and was put into use....the T-Jet and it's headaches got donated to a school.

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