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Old February 1st, 2008 Feb 1, 2008 7:15:38 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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I'm new to all this and I will be selling my t-shirts online mostly and some at trade shows do I actually need a sample t-shirt to start out? Or should I work on trademarking and copywriting first? Anything suggestions will help tremendously

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Registering a Trade Mark requires that you use that mark "in commerce" first. When ever you apply for a trade mark, the US Patent Office requires that you show the mark used in commerce. In your case you would need to show that mark on a t-shirt or clothing hang tag or something. Trademarks are usually reserved for company logos, slogans, or product logos and that type of thing.

Your individual t-shirt designs should be copyrighted. I think you can copyright your designs relatively inexpensively, but I can't remember how much it costs.

I have heard of a way of copyrighting your designs that is practically free. I don't know if this works but....I was once told that you could put all your designs in an envelope and mail them to yourself. But don't open the envelope....just keep it someplace safe. The idea is that if you ever had to prove that the designs were yours and when you created them, you could use that unopened letter. Basically, you have a postmarked letter (with the date on the postmark) that shows when you created the designs because the letter is sealed and date stamped from the federal government (the US Postal Service). Again, I don't know if that would work well.....but I have heard that it helps if you have to protect your designs.

If I were you, I would start by creating some of your t-shirts and a real simple catalog to help you promote your designs. Keep the catalog simple and low cost....but definitely include pictures of the t-shirts and not just drawings......pictures always go a little farther to selling your ideas (especially if you don't have any samples with you). Good-luck, and remember to have fun with it!
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Wow thank you so much I think this will help alot. any more suggestions please feel free everybody.
 
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The post-dated envelope method for copyrighting is legit since it's a federal postmark. I have my envelopes stored away.

As for trademarks, you don't have to register (circle R) your designs to claim ownership. You can still use the TM mark on your own. The primary benefit of registering your trademark is that it is much easier to prove legal ownership and prevent others from registering the same or similar mark. Basically, the TM is free the 'R' is not.

I had a few hundred shirts printed already with the TM next to my logo. My friend seemed impressed that I had the TM mark, but I told him it's not the same as having the R-circle.

If your logo is fairly prominent on the web, especially if it's a logotype, you're less likely to run into problems. That's the first place I search (Google Images) before designing a logo to avoid duplicating someone else's logo.
 
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The post-dated envelope method for copyrighting is legit since it's a federal postmark. I have my envelopes stored away.
Actually, this is completely incorrect. The envelope method of copyrighting won't help at all and won't protect your work at all.

It's called the "poor man's copyright" and it's a myth.

See this thread: Poor Man's Copyright - Is it worth the time?
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Rodney's correct - the "poor man's copyright" is a myth.
 
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I humbly stand corrected! Don't believe a word I say!
 
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Get some samples first so the buyer will know exactly what they might buy
 
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