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Old April 17th, 2006 Apr 17, 2006 10:53:15 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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How does South Park get to make fun of all kinds of celebrities and sometimes even use photos of their faces in the cartoon? But we can't put celebrities on our t-shirts? What's the difference? Surely South Park didn't get permission to skewer Tom Cruise in their anti-scientology episode?
 
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Because Comedy Central can afford the legal team required?

Also, they are an established outlet of satire. To object to your depiction is to fail to "get the joke" and face an enormous backlash from the public (a la Tom Cruise). Whether or not what they do is legal, it is protected due to any objection making the publicity for that given celebrity that much worse.

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Old April 17th, 2006 Apr 17, 2006 11:49:13 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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I'm a HUGE South Park fan and I have my opinions on this....

Well, for one thing, they used his name, not his face. They actually drew his face on that episode. There is more than one person in the world named Tom Cruise. Maybe this was Tom Cruz? Sorry, but when it comes down to a court situation, those things DO MATTER. They can have all the obvious reasoning to believe it's the star, but when it comes down to it, he has no proof, especially when the beginning credits start with

ALL CHARACTERS AND EVENTS IN THIS SHOW--EVEN THOSE BASED ON REAL
PEOPLE--ARE ENTIRELY FICTIONAL. ALL CELEBRITY VOICES ARE
IMPERSONATED.....POORLY.

BUT, I don't have the answers for stars where they did use their faces. Like Mel Gibson. I would say they got his permission, but they really made him out to be psycho in The Passion of the Jew... Sadaam can't do anything, and David Hasselhoff was probably honored when Mr. Garrison got a nose job to look like him. They also used Barbara Streisands face on a halloween episode, they put her face in all 4 corners for the entire episode. In another one they drew her. So, with the Tom Cruise thing, they can do anything if it's not his real face I would assume. The others, I'm not sure...


By the way...
On an episode that aired in November 2005, which poked fun at Tom Cruise and the Church of Scientology, all cast and crew names
in the closing credits were changed to "John Smith." Hahahah

I disagree with the "comedy central legal team" remark... If they're doing something illegal, and it's that obvious, it wouldn't matter how good their legal team is. Don't throw the OJ analogy at me either! This is the real world! Wait, so was that
 
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Old April 18th, 2006 Apr 18, 2006 3:08:28 AM -   #4 (permalink)
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I would like to know how tshirthumor.com gets away with using people and products. If you read the "about us" section, they are former editorial cartoonists for major newspapers so they must know a loophole we don't know about!
 
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Old April 18th, 2006 Apr 18, 2006 5:37:41 AM -   #5 (permalink)
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I would like to know how tshirthumor.com gets away with using people and products. If you read the "about us" section, they are former editorial cartoonists for major newspapers so they must know a loophole we don't know about!
I took a peek at the shirts the above mentioned site are hawking... elected officials are fair game and there is no consequence for parody.
 
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Old April 18th, 2006 Apr 18, 2006 5:52:25 AM -   #6 (permalink)
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Yeah, but I think the logo spoofs is dangerous territory.
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Old April 18th, 2006 Apr 18, 2006 8:50:57 AM -   #7 (permalink)
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There is also a difference between parody and satire using celebrities on a TV show (like South Park or Saturday Night Live) and using celebrity images on merchandise for sale.

Regarding tshirthumor, we don't know for sure that the corporations (or their legal teams) have seen the logo parodies.

Without knowing what phone calls and correspondence is going on behind the scenes, it's hard to say that they are "getting away with it".

Like Jay said that he received a cease and desist for one of his logo parodies. If you saw the t-shirt on his site before that, you may have thought he was "getting away with" selling those t-shirts, but we don't know about how many sales he made or what legal threats he received.

The same could be true for tshirthumor. They could be receiving legal threats and have their own legal team fighting lawsuits at this very moment. Or they could be flying under the radar for now.
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Old April 18th, 2006 Apr 18, 2006 9:50:07 AM -   #8 (permalink)
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I think it has to do with the selling point. For south park the selling point is the shows characters themselves, cartman etc. When we tune in to watch the show it has always been for the wacky original characters. Even with the episodes having celebrities, the story line has always centered around one of the show characters. E.g. A Jay Z T-shirt where he poses next to a bently, the selling point here is Jay Z and not the bently.
 
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Old September 12th, 2006 Sep 12, 2006 9:50:50 AM -   #9 (permalink)
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How do the get away with this?

t-shirthumor.com/Merchant2/products/bbmd.html?Category_Code=tops

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How do the get away with this?
You would have to ask them

Also read the rest of the posts above:

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Regarding tshirthumor, we don't know for sure that the corporations (or their legal teams) have seen the logo parodies.

Without knowing what phone calls and correspondence is going on behind the scenes, it's hard to say that they are "getting away with it".

Like Jay said that he received a cease and desist for one of his logo parodies. If you saw the t-shirt on his site before that, you may have thought he was "getting away with" selling those t-shirts, but we don't know about how many sales he made or what legal threats he received.

The same could be true for tshirthumor. They could be receiving legal threats and have their own legal team fighting lawsuits at this very moment. Or they could be flying under the radar for now.
If you're interested in doing those types of t-shirts, the best advice we can give is to contact a lawyer.
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I think we've had a thread similar to this one a while ago... Does anyone know the legality of making a shirt with a celebrity's picture on it?

I'm wondering if you use the South Park style to design your characters will you brake some copyrights or something ?! Hmm...
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Old September 12th, 2006 Sep 12, 2006 4:26:34 PM -   #12 (permalink)
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My company is printing t-shirts for the South Park 10th anniversary right now!
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Has it been 10 years already?! Wow.

I remember when that show first came out, I was floored at what they were doing. Cracked me up in a simple humor kinda way. I was surprised they didn't get booted after the first few shows.
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Old September 12th, 2006 Sep 12, 2006 7:38:32 PM -   #14 (permalink)
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Can someone explain to me if there is anyway we can get away with using anything from cartoons such as characters from tv shows and so forth?
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Old September 12th, 2006 Sep 12, 2006 11:42:51 PM -   #15 (permalink)
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Can someone explain to me if there is anyway we can get away with using anything from cartoons such as characters from tv shows and so forth?
Short answer: No.
Long answer: Ask a lawyer.

As a general rule though, if you want to basically take a character from a cartoon and print it on a t-shirt (i.e. Maggie Simpson whacked on the front of a baby romper) there is no way to legally do it without permission from the copyright holder.
 
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