Hi, Unregistered. | Today's Posts

T-Shirt Forums
User Name
Password

Need to Register?

Forgot Your Password?


Site Navigation




+   T-Shirt Forums > T-Shirt Selling > General T-Shirt Selling Discussion
This is the catchall topic for the t-shirt selling discussion. Not sure where to post your question about t-shirt selling? Start here.

starting out and number of designs



 
Share This Thread Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old March 14th, 2008 Mar 14, 2008 3:21:35 AM -   #16 (permalink)
Forum Member
T-Shirt Apprentice

Ilona's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2008
Posts: 9
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts


Default Re: starting out and number of designs

hi, i'm new to this and i just wanted to bring up a sub topic here. no one wants to think or talk about this. but how about damage control? what will you do w/ a 100 designs if things don't go as you planned? (as opposed to say 10) this is just my opinion but i think quality is always better than quantity especially when it comes to limited capitol. it's always good to have a backup plan so your stuff doesn't end up on ebay for a $1 each. think about controlling your potential losses too. am i right? hopefully you won't have any. peace and luck to all.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old March 14th, 2008 Mar 14, 2008 9:19:13 AM -   #17 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Fan

tyty0207's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2007
Posts: 54
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts


Default Re: starting out and number of designs

I'm getting 5 designs printed before I launch. Then I'm going to release another shirt every couple weeks.
__________________
http://acidgumdrops.com
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old March 14th, 2008 Mar 14, 2008 9:21:56 AM -   #18 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Aficionado

teabelly83's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2007
Posts: 121
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts


Default Re: starting out and number of designs

Quote:
Originally Posted by tyty0207
I'm getting 5 designs printed before I launch. Then I'm going to release another shirt every couple weeks.

yes i was looking at doing the same thing. launching with a range of 4-5 designs which possibly are both availble in tees, hoods and/or thermals.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old March 14th, 2008 Mar 14, 2008 3:56:41 PM -   #19 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Fan

JustMuck's Avatar
 
You can call me: Rick
Member Since: Jan 2008
Posts: 25
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post


Default Re: starting out and number of designs

Since the beginning of the year I have been checking out thousands of different online t-shirt companies. The number of shirts, few or small, haven't really detered me from any site. I personally believe that website layout and shirt quality are the main things to look at.

I believe if you have 2 shirts but the designs are very good, you can get away starting out. I just recieved my first order of stock, we got 50 shirts per in 3 designs (150 total). After showing them, all 3 designs are getting great reviews. So I am definately pleased with starting with 3.

Some sites I have went to have 100's of shirts. Typically their web layout isn't that good so all 100 are immediately thrown at you. I think it is overwhelming and I normally leave the site. Some others lay it out to where you're only looking at what you can handle and I am more inclined to stick around.

Either way quality should be your biggest concern. If you are trying to do too much and it hinders your quality, you are wasting your time as well as your potential customers.
__________________

 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old March 14th, 2008 Mar 14, 2008 11:49:45 PM -   #20 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Aficionado

Peace2TheRest's Avatar
 
You can call me: ryan
Member Since: Feb 2008
Posts: 282
Thanks: 0
Thanked 22 Times in 20 Posts


Default Re: starting out and number of designs

I am in this dilemma right now, I just looked at my sketchbook and I have 33 design concepts, this is not only expensive to get made, promote, market, and showcase, but I think really will overwhelm the audience. I will NEVER stay on a site that has hundred plus designs. It seems so impersonal to me, like they just cut and pasted tons of designs, or bought rites and are trying to make a quick buck. (This isnt always true but is how I interpret it)
I also think people like updated content, if you have the same designs from day one, to day 100, people are going to think "wow, is this site even active?" I think that having reserve designs to update not only keeps people coming back, but lets people know you are WORKING.
If you do have hundreds of designs I would tone it down to your best ones, then alternate others in, or phase certain ones out to create a buzz of "you have to buy this now or it will be gone".
Hope this helps, it comes from a person that liked to buy online shirts.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old March 15th, 2008 Mar 15, 2008 12:14:35 AM -   #21 (permalink)
Moderator
Certified T-Shirt Junkie

Comin'OutSwingin's Avatar
 
You can call me: Greg
Member Since: Oct 2005
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 2,735
Thanks: 127
Thanked 267 Times in 187 Posts


Default Re: starting out and number of designs

The less is more theory!!!

Here is a good article written by Billy Kapler, business consultant on just this sort of thing:

The Secret of Quality Over Quantity and Why Offering Less Styles Is More » How To Start A Clothing Line From Scratch Everything on Fashion Industry Design Daily Definitions & Industry News

Ryan, we had over 30 designs, too, and decided to scale it back a bit, for just the very reasons you mention.

Some of our designs were done years ago, but our customers don't know that. They will be seeing them for the first time. So, keeping designs in reserve and always keeping a fresh offering is a good idea.

I've been taking note of Johnny Cupcake's site, and even after being established for several years, having his own retail store and online shop, there is never more than about 20-25 designs available at 1 time on his site.

He keeps them fresh, with the newer offerings at the top, and the older ones at the bottom. I think every few weeks he adds new ones, and moves all the old ones down until they aren't offered anymore.

He told us that he already has enough designs to last for a few years. But obviously, he isn't offering a billion designs at once, even though he could if he wanted to.

So, I think you're on the right track with that.
__________________

 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old March 15th, 2008 Mar 15, 2008 12:32:09 AM -   #22 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Aficionado

Peace2TheRest's Avatar
 
You can call me: ryan
Member Since: Feb 2008
Posts: 282
Thanks: 0
Thanked 22 Times in 20 Posts


Default Re: starting out and number of designs

I think a solid example of this can be found in the fast food and restaurant market.
It has evolved from something with a few solid age old favorites, to a vast array of choices ranging from low carb, to salads, to kids meals.
This can be directly linked to the t-shirt market. We (t shirt sellers) are all like restaurants, serving our own unique cuisine, we will always have our age old favorites (logo designs, best sellers) and will incorporate new designs to draw in a different demographic from the one we will or are establishing.
Some of us will serve different things, cheaper things (not worse) expensive things.
Honestly looking at fast food chains is an excellent source of information, not only for marketing, but to see how they adapt and evolve their menus to accomodate who it is that they are catering to.
It also doesnt hurt that mcD's and others like it are some of the most creative marketing geniuses on the planet. Lets face it food and tees are two of the thins that really do appeal to everyone.
If you can emulate them and take what they do to the same level with tees then you definitely will be successful.
Just an idea.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old March 15th, 2008 Mar 15, 2008 10:06:16 PM -   #23 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Fan

spudlauncher's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2007
Posts: 95
Thanks: 3
Thanked 13 Times in 3 Posts


Default Re: starting out and number of designs

This really depends on your niche, for example if you making funny tshirts regarding the presidential elections; you're not going to expect them to sell like hotcakes in 2 years down the road.

For the most part having several shirts is nice since it gives your customers some variety and choice.

However, having too much of a variety can also be a bad thing; especially if you wanna get your name out. For exmaple, say you're trying to sell your brand, having a standard design that everyone can recognize can help you build a fanbase - getting your name out there.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old March 20th, 2008 Mar 20, 2008 3:10:17 PM -   #24 (permalink)
Forum Member
T-Shirt Member

JABshirts's Avatar
 
You can call me: Jon
Member Since: Mar 2008
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 15
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts


Default Re: starting out and number of designs

I agree with this...earlier this week, we showed 3 designs and asked people to vote for which shirt they liked best. We had a great response rate and made our decision of which shirt to print that much easier.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old March 24th, 2008 Mar 24, 2008 6:04:26 AM -   #25 (permalink)
Forum Member
T-Shirt Apprentice

Takamaru's Avatar
 
You can call me: Edwin
Member Since: Mar 2008
Posts: 7
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts


Default Re: starting out and number of designs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peace2TheRest
I am in this dilemma right now, I just looked at my sketchbook and I have 33 design concepts, this is not only expensive to get made, promote, market, and showcase, but I think really will overwhelm the audience.
If you have 33 designs there's no need to print and release them all at once. Have 5-10 of them made for a season collection, then use the next 5-10 for the next season. It keeps your brand fresh and might give you some breathing space in the future if you wouldn't have time to create a lot of designs.

That's the approach I'm aiming for with the line I'm setting up currently.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old March 25th, 2008 Mar 25, 2008 9:29:11 AM -   #26 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Aficionado

teabelly83's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2007
Posts: 121
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts


Default Re: starting out and number of designs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Takamaru
If you have 33 designs there's no need to print and release them all at once. Have 5-10 of them made for a season collection, then use the next 5-10 for the next season. It keeps your brand fresh and might give you some breathing space in the future if you wouldn't have time to create a lot of designs.

That's the approach I'm aiming for with the line I'm setting up currently.

thats a realy good piece of advice, tyhanks for that!! igota good few designs aside aswel as ones im still working on or have noted down to draw up, so as you say i will start with 3-5 designs to launch with then the other designs ivegot aside, ican use them to introduce them later on.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old March 25th, 2008 Mar 25, 2008 10:27:35 AM -   #27 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Aficionado

EternylStudios's Avatar
 
You can call me: Drew
Member Since: Mar 2006
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 131
Thanks: 3
Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts


Default Re: starting out and number of designs

If you have 30 cool designs, and not just 1 color 1 liners...release them all if you have the time to create more, and the resources to get them all produced...meaning if this is really something your going for hardcore, go for it hardcore....otherwise...

If some of the quality is less then what you are targeting , be choosy, and improve on some of the designs for the next round.

Decide on your audience...many forum posters here love Tees, and would love to buy a more rare cool design, but it is a different group selection than say your general walmart shopper, who unfortunately might see a site with 5 designs as not a legitimate business...however a Actual Physical store with 5 designs is way different than one with 100, so it really depends on the designs, and the customer in the end...but a release of a few designs will definitely give off a much different look/feel that a release of 30.

Better or worse, I think that is the opinion of your customer, who ever that may be.

personally I could never convince myself to buy from a site I saw as questionable in any way.
__________________
www.eternyl.com
The Eternyl Store - Blog - Studio
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!

Tags: , , ,



This is a discussion about starting out and number of designs that was posted in the General T-Shirt Selling Discussion section of the forums.

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:07 PM.


Copyright 2004-2009 T-ShirtForums.com. All rights reserved.