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Old March 7th, 2017 Mar 7, 2017 8:24:37 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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I'm thinking about adding a conveyor dryer to help increase efficiency. Currently I have a Hotronix auto clam, but for me a single heatpress creates a bottleneck since there often isn't enough time to pretreat, cure the pretreat and then cure a print in the time it takes to print a garment and I would like to have the machine print with minimal idle time.

Are there any certain requirements for a conveyor dryer I should be aware of for curing DTG prints, specifically for the F2000? Is forced air required? The unit I'm thinking about is the Vastex Little Red X1 which doesn't have forced air. I would need something with a small footprint and that's around $3000 or less.

The other option would be to add a second heapress like the Hotronix Hover press, but I'm thinking the conveyor dryer would be less labor intensive and quicker to load. I also have a small screen printing setup that I use for certain designs/orders so the conveyor dryer would greatly speed things up there; as of now I'm doing my final cure on the heat press (plastisol prints) which is not no very fun or efficient.

Thank you in advance for any input.
 
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I'm thinking about adding a conveyor dryer to help increase efficiency. Currently I have a Hotronix auto clam, but for me a single heatpress creates a bottleneck since there often isn't enough time to pretreat, cure the pretreat and then cure a print in the time it takes to print a garment and I would like to have the machine print with minimal idle time.

Are there any certain requirements for a conveyor dryer I should be aware of for curing DTG prints, specifically for the F2000? Is forced air required? The unit I'm thinking about is the Vastex Little Red X1 which doesn't have forced air. I would need something with a small footprint and that's around $3000 or less.

The other option would be to add a second heapress like the Hotronix Hover press, but I'm thinking the conveyor dryer would be less labor intensive and quicker to load. I also have a small screen printing setup that I use for certain designs/orders so the conveyor dryer would greatly speed things up there; as of now I'm doing my final cure on the heat press (plastisol prints) which is not no very fun or efficient.

Thank you in advance for any input.

A conveyor dryer would work for the Epson F2000 but it would have to be the right type. Please note that all direct to garment inks are water based inks so a dryer with hot air is required. The Vastex dryer you mentioned would not work well. Vastex does make conveyor dryers for dtg printing, with hot air flow, but they will cost considerably more. Black Body also has conveyor dryers designed for dtg printing.

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Default Re: Conveyor Dryer

You'll also have to take note that if you place your F2000 in the same room as a belt dryer will that dryer reduce the humidity in the room to such low levels that the DTG will not like it. Just a thought.

I have 2 Geo Knight presses and that does the trick for me. No longer waiting for a spot on the heat press.
 
 
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Good point about the humidity. I suppose with forced air that would be an issue, and less of an issue for a dryer without forced air. It's too bad that a dryer without forced air will not work with dtg.

Does anyone know if a dryer without forced air will cure the DTG Print enough so that it's dry to the touch and I can hang the garments on a rack and then do a final cure on the heat press for a short duration of maybe 10-15 seconds and the end of printing?
 
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Default Re: Conveyor Dryer

you MIGHT justabout get away with the Little red twin hean (is that the X2?) but the X1 will not dry and cure your prints properly, particularly on darks with a white underbase.
You could put through twice, but garment will cool down a lot .....
I was tempted by the little red, standard socket etc, but only just suitable for plastisol screen inks, and only just .... no other screen inks, and defo not dtg. Go see, get samples and wash off your design 1st wash. thats what happened to me ...
 
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you MIGHT justabout get away with the Little red twin hean (is that the X2?) but the X1 will not dry and cure your prints properly, particularly on darks with a white underbase.
You could put through twice, but garment will cool down a lot .....
I was tempted by the little red, standard socket etc, but only just suitable for plastisol screen inks, and only just .... no other screen inks, and defo not dtg. Go see, get samples and wash off your design 1st wash. thats what happened to me ...

These smaller conveyor dryers can work fine for textile screen printing using plastisol inks. Plastisol inks are basically vinyl and they just need to be heated to a certain temperature and the inks fuse. Once they fuse they're dry - no need to keep it under heat any longer. With the water based inks we use in direct to garment printers, you need to dry off all the water vapor in the inks. You need to get the inks up to a certain temperature and then keep them at that temperature for a period of time in order to drive off the water vapor. So hot air and the length of the heat chamber all are important factors in getting this done.

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Default Re: Conveyor Dryer

Can anyone actually list some specific dryers that are actually known to work well for DTG? BBC, Vastex, or other brands but please be more specific than just the brand name.

We need to replace our dryer we use for screen printing anyway and if I can spend a little more and use it for both I would. I was looking at Vastex dryers but am open to any suggestions. I would prefer to stay around 5k but would go up to 10k if they features/quality of the dryer justify it.
 
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Can anyone actually list some specific dryers that are actually known to work well for DTG? BBC, Vastex, or other brands but please be more specific than just the brand name.

We need to replace our dryer we use for screen printing anyway and if I can spend a little more and use it for both I would. I was looking at Vastex dryers but am open to any suggestions. I would prefer to stay around 5k but would go up to 10k if they features/quality of the dryer justify it.

Here are 2 of the smaller size dryers that will work for dtg printing:

Vastex BR4-V30

Black Body Air 2408

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Black Body also has a new large conveyor dryer geared to dtg printing.

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Dang 8K and up for "mini dryers". I'll take my two Geo Knight $1,200 presses any day.
 
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Default Re: Conveyor Dryer

Would a Brown UltraSierra X series dryer work well. Looks like they are decent size and have forced air. There also seems to be a decent amount of used ones available at decent prices.
 
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Default Re: Conveyor Dryer

I believe these are more suited for screen printing use with plastisol inks then with the water based inks used for direct to garment printers.

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Default Re: Conveyor Dryer

We stuck our DTG equipment next to an underused 8' BBC IR panel conveyor dryer intended for plastisol only that does not have forced air.

Here's our results:
  • Pretreating quickly is one of the biggest advantages. Basically as fast as you can load the pretreat machine and place on the dryer.
  • Looks better than pressing. Pressing adds to the pretreat box look. On garments like CH MC1082 can barely tell it was pretreated.
  • Shirt fibers stick up a lot after going thru dryer. Need to heat press before printing.
  • Prints cure prints fine we did wash testing.
  • White shirts = scorch city when trying to cure. We still cure them in the heat press.
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I have heard that Vastex is shortly coming out with a new model conveyor dryer specifically made for direct to garment print drying.

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Default Re: Conveyor Dryer

Large DTG operations use conveyor, not sure why the equipment brokers push heat press when the results are a lot less efficient

video of a 150 machine shop here. all conveyor dryers.
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