Hello, i just bought a singer futura 250 and was sorely disapointed with the stitch quality...anyone else had this? Anyway I've decideed to get rid but i haven't been put off at all, in fact i want more! i've now found the pr-620 but dont want to make the same mistake twice. I work in the forces and there is a huge demand for t-shirts, sweatshirts and hoodies. The futura seemed to struggle with the t-shirt fabric. Do you think this will happen with the pr620. I dont want to get a loan to pay for it and find i have the same crap quality stitching.
Ive uploaded an example of what i was getting with the futura.
That looks more like a digitizing issue than a machine issue... The stitching is only as good as the digitizer...
If you want to email me the source file, I can stitch it on a PR600 tomorrow and send you a picture of the result.
That said, I have 2 PR600II's. One has over 18 million stitches, the other has almost 40 million. They are complete work horses.... There is also a very large Yahoo group for the PR600 models (the 620 is just a newer version of the 600 with some extra features and a slightly smaller cylinder). We occasionally have trouble with certain hats, otherwise they can handle just about anything you can throw at them and still fit in the hoop size.
It could have been the design as well as the machine.
I am not familiar with the PR-620 so I can't say whether it would be a good buy or not.
But, before you buy any other machine watch it sew out, preferrable a design that you have selected, on the type of fabric you will be using.
It is the only way you can really tell if the quality is what you want.
Good luck with your decision.
Try the flower design that is built into the machine and see if you get a good stitchout with that. Make sure the tension is set at "E". You didn't say how small the design is in the picture and whether you used the "autodigitizing" software. Small designs don't usually work well with autogigitizing. What stabilizer did you use in the hoop and did you use a water soluable stabilizer on top of the knit fabric? I started with the Futura and now have a PR600. You should get a better stitchout than that with the Futura if the item is properly stabilized and you have a good design.
Hi, i used two layers of strong cut away medira stabilizer underneath, i had noticed better results with this...you should have seen the results with just 1 layer of tear away! shocking.
The design is approx 8cm wide. I did auto digitize to start but found the results a bit crap so digitized it myself in pe design 6. It was originally set to 4.5lines per mm but i cranked it up to 7 because i was getting big gaps between thread in the satin stitch areas. This is the best ive had it and its still crap.
I thought embroidering would be easier....big mistake! (
I still want to though but it seems im spending allot and ive got nothing so far.
Ive got several books and followed their instruction but still struggling.
Try one of the designs built into the machine. Also you should use a clear water soluable stabilizer (looks like saran wrap) pinned on top of the fabric for knits (this helps keep the stitches from sinking into the fabric) and adjust your pull compensation.
Heather emailed me the file. It's definately not a file or digitizing issue that I can see.
All the pieces are set to use underlay and the densities are all set to 178. I will
stitch it out on my PR600 tomorrow just to see how it stitches on my machine.
I agree with Ted that the pr600 series are true workhorses. They stitch as well or better than machines costing twice as much and require little maintenance. You won't find a better machine for the price and you can always find ones that have been used very little for not much money at all. A lot of shops started with these machines (me included) and love them. My Barudan has nothing on the stitch quality of my brothers. Satin and t-shirts are the most finicky fabric for me , but I still do a lot of both. I see no bobbin thread showing and no puckers on your stitch out. If you bought your machine from a dealer, they should have included free support and lessons . Support is the most important thing when buying any machine. Take your design with you and have it stitched out at the dealers on t-shirt fabric. One more thing, you said you went from 4.5 density to 7. Doing that just cut the density almost in half. A lower number means higher density. 4 is considered a normal density. Autodigitizing of almost anything is usually crap so stay away from that if you can. You should never have to use more than one piece of the correct stabilizer or go below a density of 4 for a proper design. Add more underlay if the coverage isn't what you need. If you'd like, I can do a quickie design for you, stitch it out , then send the design to you to try. And yes, there is a LOT to learn in embroidery and digitizing well is harder exponentially.
Is the pr-620 a good buy for the home? 
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