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Old September 6th, 2008 Sep 6, 2008 7:34:19 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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I have a simple question, hopping to get an answer, no matter where I look I cannot find if the Decostudio or Drawings package send the designs from the PC to the embroidery machine, or if I have to save to a disk and use my legacy system to do the transfer. I know wilcom es does it ( since it states in their web-page), but i have not found a reference about straight to embroidery, for the corel packages, all they admit is the format of the file.... I don't know it might be obvious that they do and I'm just confusing myself, or may be they rely in another software to send the design to the machine... some help as you see would be greatly appreciated.
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Did you look at the digital artsolutions website or help forum to see if maybe they have an answer there? I would think since they sell the decostudio they might. I wish I could help more
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Old September 6th, 2008 Sep 6, 2008 10:34:28 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Unfortunately I had no luck finding any info on this subject in any of the pages that provide info on this products, no help forum in digitalartsolutions, their info seems vague or simply I'm looking for wings in a cow, and if it doesn't state "direct to machine" is that probably doesn`t. thanks' for the info anyway, I hope that someone knows the program and can let me know, if sending to the embroidery machine is possible, or that I should start looking for a different approach to getting rid of my 1993 software suite.

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Old September 6th, 2008 Sep 6, 2008 10:41:50 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Here is a link to the support forum, its a little difficult to find Program Support Network Forums,

Its kinda hidden on the site But their might be something in there that might help
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DecoStudio will communicate with the machine directly. There are certain switch settings that have to made on the machine itself.
 
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First thanks to both of you for your help, I've been digging in the smartdesigns forum, and there is little information in their forum about connectivity, so I've been digging throught the t-shirtforums and also I cannot seem to find much about connecting the machines with this pieces of software. I will provably contact Digital art solutions and ask them, but since I'm not in the US or for that matter in a city big enough to get a demo on the product, all I have to rely is in user experience on forums or promises from the vendor ( and I trust the first better, no offense). If anyone has any more info on connectivity to machine from decostudio or drawings x3 it would be very much appreciated, I don't feel like dropping 1900$+ and not know before hand what is exactly that it does, maybe I'm a bit anal about all the tech specs.

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You know what? I think if you call them, they may be able to give you an online demo. I know they did this when me before I bought their products. Its worth a try
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Default Re: toyota 820A

Just an update.

After looking and looking sometimes the answer is nothing like you thought it would be.

At the end I decided to use a freeware program to upload to my toyota 820. It reads most formats and can link with no problem to my embroidery machine. although its more based on faith than any indication from the program that is sending anything, but my toyota glows green while receiving data, so It's working; and since I'm not planing on digitizing yet and lettering is all I need, this has been the dicovery ot the day.

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on my 820 I used the original cable 25-25 serial ( 7 pins on the machine end), a 25 to 9 serial , and a usb to serial adapter (20$) ( I know, it seems like an overkill, but try to connect early 90's equipment nowadays).

serial com config:

baud rate: 9600
Data bits: 8
Stop bits: 2
Parity : Odd
Flow control: hardware

send the design to the embroiderer after having initialized the machine, in this order:
on the toyota do: clear + 1 + set
then on embroidery font plus: file->send to tajima emb machine: via communication port")

If everything is ok you should see a blinking green light in your machine panel, you proud embroiderer are in business.

Now I think I'm gonna try hooking it up via bluetooth, there are some serial to bluetooth adapters, no to expensive, that would really ease on the cabling

and remember only 100.00 stiches at a time.
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Old September 18th, 2008 Sep 18, 2008 6:01:41 AM -   #9 (permalink)
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Default Re: toyota 820A

I have a TOYOTA 820A and I just went through this same problem. I have WILCOM 65 and even though it claims it will communicate with my 820A you have to have a special cable(which no one sells).I contacted www.pantograms.com which is the Toyota distributor and they sold me the Toyota communication software($550.00 USD) and it works absolutely great. You save your designin DST or EXP format or what you use and then send it to your machine. The only drawback is that because the 820A is an older machine it does not display the design name in the machine window but rather just a number i.e. design 01, design 02 etc. although newer machines display the file name.

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Default Re: toyota 820A

I am not sure what version you are using. If you are using Expert Stitch Manager, you can rename the file before sending it. You probably have 3 panes in the window of the software. The left pane shows what the machine has as a design and the stitch progress. The middle pane should have designs that have been or are waiting to be sent to the machine. The right pane should show machines connected to the machine.

If you look down at the bottom of the middle pane there should be an area that shows where it named the file in a sequence like ESM 103. You can highlight that and change the name and that name will be sent to the machine.
 
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My program is Design File Manager 7.5

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Old December 2nd, 2008 Dec 2, 2008 11:35:27 PM -   #12 (permalink)
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Default Re: toyota 820A

Hi,

I have Toyota 820A and I don't have communication cable.
Does anybody have pin out chart for 25 pin port ?
I found pin out chart for 9 pin port on Pantograms - Your Complete Embroidery Provider
but I don't have Wilcom software and I can't check their support website.

Where can I find Instruction Manual for 820A?
I need dip-switch table at least.
What are correct dip switch settings?

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Just an update.

After looking and looking sometimes the answer is nothing like you thought it would be.

At the end I decided to use a freeware program to upload to my toyota 820. It reads most formats and can link with no problem to my embroidery machine. although its more based on faith than any indication from the program that is sending anything, but my toyota glows green while receiving data, so It's working; and since I'm not planing on digitizing yet and lettering is all I need, this has been the dicovery ot the day.

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on my 820 I used the original cable 25-25 serial ( 7 pins on the machine end), a 25 to 9 serial , and a usb to serial adapter (20$) ( I know, it seems like an overkill, but try to connect early 90's equipment nowadays).

serial com config:

baud rate: 9600
Data bits: 8
Stop bits: 2
Parity : Odd
Flow control: hardware

send the design to the embroiderer after having initialized the machine, in this order:
on the toyota do: clear + 1 + set
then on embroidery font plus: file->send to tajima emb machine: via communication port")

If everything is ok you should see a blinking green light in your machine panel, you proud embroiderer are in business.

Now I think I'm gonna try hooking it up via bluetooth, there are some serial to bluetooth adapters, no to expensive, that would really ease on the cabling

and remember only 100.00 stiches at a time.


Where exactly do you set your com1 /serial options in that font program anyways?


anyone have any advice how I can send to my 850 using Wilcom 2006? I seem to be able to send my files to the machine manager queue but im not sure how to actualy send the file to the machine, or have the machine grab it from the pc...

programs i have at my disposal currently are WINGSx3, wilcome es-65, and embroidery fonts plus.
 
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the com configuration is done in the properties of the port in windows ( control panel - system- hardware -device manager-ports- ( your port)> properties>port setting) may vary depending on your windows version. works for me, and it opens up a whole bunch of formats, good if you have a whole bunch of floppies with old designs. as noted in my post the indicator for the transfer is a blinking light on the toyota, there is no feedback of the transfer in the software. hope it helps.
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Default Re: toyota 820A RS232 Null Modem Cable

I was inside my Toyota AD820 today, and I was reminded of this thread.. So I thought I'd add to it...

Inside the AD820 is a short 7 conductor cable. This cable is about 10 inches long, and has a connector at each end.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3404/...bd5217e1_b.jpg

At one end, is a small, black, flat, 7 pin connector. It connects to and becomes part of a larger grey cable, which runs to the CPU board, located on the underside of the machine.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3280/...1ce27dd9_b.jpg

At the other end, is the 25 pin D Female connector that's accessible at the rear of the machine. This is the connector where you connect the "Null Modem" cable which goes to your PC.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3551/...44aa77c0_o.jpg

More "Null Modem" cable information can be found here:

Null Modem

The following dagram is a schemartic of all of this. Please be sure to let me know if you find errors in this diagram, and I'll correct / update it.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3417/...187da64d_o.jpg

On the CPU board, a Maxim RS238 (IC7) chip takes care of the level translation between RS232 signal levels, and TTL levels.

http://datasheets.maxim-ic.com/en/ds/MAX220-MAX249.pdf

To this image, I added the RS232 names of each pin on the 25 pin D-Sub connector at the rear of the machine.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3517/...f8c2e48b_o.jpg

Thanks

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