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Looking to buy an embroidery machine NEED HELP PLEASE!!



 
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Old June 23rd, 2008 Jun 23, 2008 7:28:53 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Looking to buy an embroidery machine NEED HELP PLEASE!!

Hi we are looking to buy an inexpensive machine, to do smaller jobs and maybe the bigger ones too, looking to be able to do shirts jackets, caps, tote bags and so on.
was looking at the babylock bmp8, also looking at the babylock Ellegante 2 BLG2ell, please any help would be much appreciated, i know melco is like the best but way out of range, thanks again.

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Old June 23rd, 2008 Jun 23, 2008 8:04:37 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Looking to buy an embroidery machine NEED HELP PLEASE!!

I don't know how much embroidery you plan to do. I know some printers who sub out their embroidery until they get enough business to make it profitable to get a machine. I just wanted to add this food for thought. ... JB
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Default Re: Looking to buy an embroidery machine NEED HELP PLEASE!!

If you want to do multiple color designs or larger items like jackets, forget the Ellegante and go straight for the BMP6 or the Brother PR600... Otherwise you will will quickly be looking to sell the smaller machine and move up to the bigger machine.
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Default Re: Looking to buy an embroidery machine NEED HELP PLEASE!!

Depending on the amount and type of embroidery that you are planning to do the babylock Ellegante is a good choice. I started out with the Babylock Ellageo, which is the next level down from the Ellegante and I got great results. I have now moved up to the commercial Tijama machine to keep up with the business.
 
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Default Re: Looking to buy an embroidery machine NEED HELP PLEASE!!

Let me add that I also needed a machine that did regular sewing as well as embroidery and I still use both machines to keep up with the demand.
 
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Default Re: Looking to buy an embroidery machine NEED HELP PLEASE!!

can the ellegante 2 do jackets and caps??
we already outsource our jobs and now it is time for us to do the stuff on our own, and make some moolah!!
 
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I don't see how you would be able to hoop the front of a cap with the Ellegante-2. The advertisement says it will embroider up to 7 by 11.75 inch designs, I just don't see how you would fit a jacket but I suppose anything is possible. I doubt it would be easy...

I had a smaller Ellageo for a few months and we only used it for very small, simple one color designs, mostly lace ornaments. It was too much of a pain to change colors constantly. We traded it on on another PR-600.

Your best bet is to go to a dealer and see the machines in person. Take a cap with you and ask them to show you how to embroider it... The store we bought our machines from had both and quickly talked me out of the smaller machine when it came to hats and multi-color designs. In retrospect, going with the bigger machine was one of the best decisions we made.
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I got a quote for the babylock bmp8, which includes all the hoops , the stand, warranty, and free training all for $7900, is that a good price?
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If that price does not include the Palette software, I'd say it sounds high but I'm not up-to-date on the current prices. I paid a little lower than that 2 years ago for my first PR600 including the PE-Design software.
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Default Re: Looking to buy an embroidery machine NEED HELP PLEASE!!

Define good price?? (my way of saying no, without really having to say no)
For that machine, $7900 might be a discounted price from that dealer. But for around the same price(with in $900) you might as well look at a machine built for commercial use, by a commercial manufacturer.
I know that SWF offers a single head in that price range & they even have a 100% trade up value guarantee. Plus if you take a close look at Warranty's you will see a huge difference.

So please take this for what it is & nothing more. ** Think bigger(long term) & purchase a machine that will meet your needs now & later, because for $7900 you can get a lot more machine.(you will be happy you did)

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PS. in a past life I had something to do with selling embroidery equipment. I have grown up in an embroidery business & I have seen almost every single brand of equipment offered. Their are a lot of good machines out there, but typically people are only disappointed with what they bought when they find out more about what they could have bought or should have bought. Don't let that be you go on Google & type in embroidery machine check out SWF, Toyota, & Barudan.
 
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ok great input thanks
 
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Old June 23rd, 2008 Jun 23, 2008 6:55:59 PM -   #12 (permalink)
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Default Re: Looking to buy an embroidery machine NEED HELP PLEASE!!

we have a toyota 9100net and love it. have it hooked up thru our network. might get a second one if things keep picking up
 
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how much is the 9100?
 
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Default Re: Looking to buy an embroidery machine NEED HELP PLEASE!!

we paid around 15k for it, but it was a full package. We got the machine, hoops, cap frames, the normal start up items, but then we paid for a second dongle for the embroidery software so we could have it on 2 computers. We have a home based business out of a detatched garage and it is nice to be able to sit at the laptop up at the house at night and work on orders and save it to the machine in the shop. was worth the extra $$$
 
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Matt, I thought about the same problem, trying to use the software on multiple machines with 1 dongle. I leave the dongle on my main machine in the shop, then use XP remote desktop to remote access the shop machine from my laptop... Just another option instead of buying another dongle...
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