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Old January 7th, 2008 Jan 7, 2008 6:33:15 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Embroidery i2, plug-in program for Illustrator

As quoted from Pulse's press release: "Embroidery i2, from Pulse Microsystems Ltd., is the first-ever Adobe Illustrator plug-in that can convert logos and other vector art into embroidery designs."

Corel already has Drawings and a previous plug-in for Pulse embroidery digitizing. Could this be the embroidery program that Adobe Illustrator fans are waiting for? Any comments from the Adobe fans?

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Old February 21st, 2008 Feb 21, 2008 2:59:27 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Embroidery i2, plug-in program for Illustrator

I saw this plugin running 10 days ago. They said the price for a similar embroidery program would be $8000.

But for i2 they will sell it $3500, but you have a mandatory yearly subscription ($1600 each year). (they also said the final price were not all set).

Anyway it is a nice plugin, but I don't like the yearly fees.


The live demo
http://www.embroideryi2.com/media/videos/i2-vid-01.htm

can be found on there website
Embroidery i2 News - Create embroidery inside Adobe Illustrator

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$199.00 a month

Sorry, this looks like the perfect piece of software for me but I refuse to support a monthly service contract for software.

I'd rather pay $1000 or $5000 once than have to pay $199.00 every month whether or not I use and be unable to resell the product if it doesn't work out for me.
 
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I agree,a "subscription" based software will not work. I wonder if they have something new to offer every month, to justify the monthly fees?
 
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What exactly is the subscription for?
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Old April 21st, 2008 Apr 21, 2008 7:22:05 AM -   #6 (permalink)
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What exactly is the subscription for?
revenue for adobe
 
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Yeah but there has to be some benefit, right?
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They also told me the monthly fees is due to hacking... but they can say whatever they want to :-)
 
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wow, they are like the government, you are paying a tax on a product you own forever, like car taxes(if your state has 'em)
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Yeah but there has to be some benefit, right?
Heh they let you keep using it lol.

I'm just not fan of subscriptions for something core to my business.

Embroidery at my level doesn't generate a stable enough income to warrant that kind of investment. Not only that, if the plug-in can't validate itself against the server, does it shut down? If I have an outage of service does that mean my business will shut down too?

There are too many problems in reliability for the consumer to buy into subscription software at the moment in my not so honest opinion. The only people who get stability in subscription model are the ones selling the subscription.

I suppose I rail against this choice in pricing mainly because I really wanted the software. Our graphic design house has been using Adobe products for many years and we are comfortable in that workspace. This could have been a perfect fit but instead it is an irritation and a no sale.
 
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Yeah doesnt sound too cool to me.
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the subscription is for upgrades and support. some companies also license this way. so at the end of the term if you didnt pay again they cut off your software.

from the software co's point of view they want to continue to make the product better. a subscription base provides the funding for it. it also provides a predictable revenue stream for the company. now, if they are going to do that, i would want some sort of channel restrictions so every tom-dick-harry couldnt get the software, only professionals in the biz. after all, if someone running a home machine out of their kitchen can get this software, what is the point? just send all your digitizing out at that point.
 
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the subscription is for upgrades and support. some companies also license this way. so at the end of the term if you didnt pay again they cut off your software.

I understand licensing the support and upgrade channel, I don't have a problem with that. However, subscription to even use the application is where my hackles get raised. There are very few products in the enterprise that I would ever commit to purchasing if the application itself were governed by recurring licensing fees. Most times I'll pick competitor if I see recurring fees for a package and their competitor offers a fixed price. If they want to charge me a ridiculous price for support, go ahead; that is the norm for the software business but at least let me make use of the software so I can recoup my investment.

I would say your thought on restricting it to professionals only is achieved with monthly subscription. Smaller production houses and home users can't/won't spend $2400 a year on a recurring basis.
 
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I think you guys are missing something. You can either purchase the software outright for $8k. But they give a 20% discount so its really 6400. Or you can subscribe monthly for $199. Of which up to 12 months of subscription can be credited to purchasing it outright.

After speaking with them today it seems that the subscription model is more to get people to get trained and try the software with little risk. Think about it why would you invest $8k in software that you don't know of. Their model let's you try before you fully commit.

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I think you guys are missing something. You can either purchase the software outright for $8k. But they give a 20% discount so its really 6400. Or you can subscribe monthly for $199. Of which up to 12 months of subscription can be credited to purchasing it outright.

After speaking with them today it seems that the subscription model is more to get people to get trained and try the software with little risk. Think about it why would you invest $8k in software that you don't know of. There model let's you try before you fully commit.
OK, that makes sense now. Thanks
 
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