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Old December 12th, 2007 Dec 12, 2007 11:21:26 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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I am fairly new to machine embroidery and am trying to embroider names on 1" polyseter webbing for a luggage strap. The letters(esp curved letters) are looping on the top. I have tried different stabilizers and increasing my thread tension but then the thread loops and bunches up on the bottom. I know it can be done as my husband has some straps that were done in Turkey years ago. I have a 6 head babylock BMP6 machine. I can embroider without problems on regular fabric but need help with this material. I've also tried polypropylene and nylon webbing with similar results.
idon't know if I should try a larger(?Titanium ?) needle or different thread wt.I am using a 75/11 needle and 40wt thread.
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Old December 12th, 2007 Dec 12, 2007 11:27:15 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Embroidery problems on webbing

Daryl,
Loosen your tension. You are sewing through a lot thicker material than regular fabric and can't use the same tension for both. Your machine has a built in test pattern to tell you when you have the right tension. You should have the bottom showing thirds(ie. top thread on both of the outside thirds, and bobbin thread on the center third). I use the same needle and thread, just different tensions. Once you get it right, make a note of it so you can go back to that setting again.

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Old December 13th, 2007 Dec 13, 2007 6:54:37 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks Jim, I'll try that.

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Old December 13th, 2007 Dec 13, 2007 4:21:19 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Embroidery problems on webbing

I would say tighten the top tension, slow your machine down and lower the density of the satin as much as poss. My multi heads have the same problem but my single heads sew like a dream.

Other tricks are spray silicon onto the thread or use grease proof paper underneath.
 
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Old December 13th, 2007 Dec 13, 2007 6:59:26 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: Embroidery problems on webbing

cdr1182,
Try a 80/12 Sharp, that is what I use when doing dog collars. The extra size keeps the 40wt thread from hanging up and causing loops and the sharp keeps deflection to a minimum.
 
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Old December 20th, 2007 Dec 20, 2007 2:35:43 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: Embroidery problems on webbing

Sharp point needles and Tighten tensions are good advise, and will often reslove that kind of problem, but I wonder about the machines suitability to sew through such a heavy fabric, the check springs can also be tightened to pull the stitching through the fabric. Thats the little wire spring that the thread passes over.

I have done webbing embroidery successfully on industrial machines such as the SWF machines
 
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Old February 2nd, 2008 Feb 2, 2008 7:22:07 PM -   #7 (permalink)
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I just start the embroidery busines but i would like know if when you guys type the lettering in your sofware right u guys have to click any type of funtion for the embroidery machine don't got jump or cut the thread every single letter even if u are using the small size lettering with the same color thread??
 
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I don't know if you are using editing software, or taking the letters off of your machine. If you haven't had trouble with tie-ons, tie-offs, or cutting before, then they are turned on on your machine(they can be turned off on the machine you have). The easiest way for you to be sure to have them cut after every letter is to change the color on each one. Then your machine will see each separately and perform the proper operations. I'm going to guess that what is happening is that the machine is putting a small stitch in between letters because it is smaller than the length required for it to perform a cut and is just seeing it as a long stitch. On your machine, it is very easy to change colors for every letter and that should help you a lot even if it is a pain I'm also going to assume you are using pes format. That is why most of us use dst although it is harder for beginners to get used to since the colors only represent color changes with the proper codes at those stops.

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Hello jim i think may i didn't wrote fine what is me problem , i got wilcom es lettering software and i got me desing allways save in tajima dst, to bring the floppy disk or the usb to the machine but like if i wrote me name in (block 2) type of lettering, with black color when the machine finish the first letter cut the thread and jump to the second letter so what i want it's that keep embroidery from the first to the second one with out have cut the thread in each letter.
 
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Beto. you need to adjust the properties in your connectors menu. If you want to keep the stitches between individual letters then choose CONNECTORS INSIDE OBJECT and set the parameter to 3mm, this will stop the machine trimming if the distance between each letter is less than 3mm. Of course you can set the distance higher than 3mm but I think it starts to look ugly beyond that.
 
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Thanks for the clarification Dean. I think few people really understand how machines read the codes and the settings you sometimes have to make. There is a huge learning curve for most to learn how and why, and each software is totally different. Lord knows I'm still learning after years of embroidery and digitizing

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Hello jim i think may i didn't wrote fine what is me problem , i got wilcom es lettering software and i got me desing allways save in tajima dst, to bring the floppy disk or the usb to the machine but like if i wrote me name in (block 2) type of lettering, with black color when the machine finish the first letter cut the thread and jump to the second letter so what i want it's that keep embroidery from the first to the second one with out have cut the thread in each letter.
Thanks for the help Dean i will check that and i appretiate. is good to know is still people that can help.
 
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Default Re: Embroidery problems on webbing

tighten the top tension and check the thread path.
 
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thanks dean i did what u said when to connectors and ajust the parrameter and even in me sofware when im writing a name it's shows the thread sewing continues to the next letter.
 
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Some thing that I do when that happens ( if the letter was traced ) I "cheat" the machine by drawing a line in the closest part of the letters that are next each other, a single line the sam,e color as the letter that is being embroider. But when is separated names you can't do that. The easiest solution is in properties of the letter an set the jump between letters in 10. The closest the number the machine will make a cut each letter at once.
Hope this works !
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