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Old October 27th, 2009 Oct 27, 2009 3:43:59 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Foam Pulling through stitching on puff embroidery

We sent a design and had it digitized for puff embroidery. We did a test stitch on fabric and it did fine but when we did a test stitch on a throw-away cap the foam is pulling through the stitching. I'm thinking maybe the foam wasn't flush against the cap when it started but I'm hoping someone has some quick tips so I don't burn through a dozen caps trying to get it right.
 
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Old October 27th, 2009 Oct 27, 2009 3:56:53 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Foam Pulling through stitching on puff embroidery

I'm not sure what you mean by "pulling through the stitches".
Is it sticking out around the edges or all over the design?
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Old October 27th, 2009 Oct 27, 2009 4:01:05 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Foam Pulling through stitching on puff embroidery

The edges are fine...it is pulling through the satin stitch. It's spotty....a handful of spots where you can see a little bit of the foam pulling through.
 
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Old October 27th, 2009 Oct 27, 2009 4:35:31 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Foam Pulling through stitching on puff embroidery

I have the same problem. I have digitized a couple logos and doubled the density of stitches (normally from 55 to 110) and it seems to pop through randomly. I have also tried the Hair dryer trick to shrink the foam, but the 3d still looks rough. I thought about trying to stitch the logo and then turn around a restitch the logo just a little wider. I look at a baseball cap and the 3d logo looks perfectly smooth, but not mine.
 
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Default Re: Foam Pulling through stitching on puff embroidery

Hi Troy,
When I do it, we run it through a t-shirt conveyer drier. It probably 330 for about a minute. A paint stripper or a gun that's used for shink wrap would also be hot enough. You can go over it a second time, but it will tamp down the puff even more. Try adjusting tension also. There is a file on the Stitch ERA group that I posted, that has been run in production on a six head on about 4 dozen caps successfully. You can try if you want. Also note that on some puff that you see, the caps were done before the material was sewn together
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We did a test stitch on fabric and it did fine but when we did a test stitch on a throw-away cap the foam is pulling through the stitching. I'm hoping someone has some quick tips
To Clarify, After You Stitch, then Lift the Foam you have "hairs" of foam sticking out. Correct? If this is your concern, here a simple fix. Hit it with a HEAT GUN & the FOAM HAIRS shrink back into the Embroidery. Just us a standard heat gun from any building supply house.
 
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To Clarify, After You Stitch, then Lift the Foam you have "hairs" of foam sticking out. Correct? If this is your concern, here a simple fix. Hit it with a HEAT GUN & the FOAM HAIRS shrink back into the Embroidery. Just us a standard heat gun from any building supply house.
You can do this but you run the risk of melting the thread and having an even bigger mess.
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Default Re: Foam Pulling through stitching on puff embroidery

I will try pre-heating the foam. When you mention adjusting the tension, do you mean increase or decrease? When I look at the spots where the foam is coming through, it looks like the foam was cut by the thread.
 
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Hi Troy,
When I do it, we run it through a t-shirt conveyer drier. It probably 330 for about a minute. A paint stripper or a gun that's used for shink wrap would also be hot enough. You can go over it a second time, but it will tamp down the puff even more. Try adjusting tension also. There is a file on the Stitch ERA group that I posted, that has been run in production on a six head on about 4 dozen caps successfully. You can try if you want. Also note that on some puff that you see, the caps were done before the material was sewn together
Thanks I will try all that.
 
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Default Re: Foam Pulling through stitching on puff embroidery

The more I look at it I feel like maybe it is a random thread bunched up. Any advise would be helpful.
 
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Hi Troy,
When I do it, we run it through a t-shirt conveyer drier. It probably 330 for about a minute. A paint stripper or a gun that's used for shink wrap would also be hot enough. You can go over it a second time, but it will tamp down the puff even more. Try adjusting tension also. There is a file on the Stitch ERA group that I posted, that has been run in production on a six head on about 4 dozen caps successfully. You can try if you want. Also note that on some puff that you see, the caps were done before the material was sewn together
Could you help me find the Stitch era group so I can find this test file? Thanks
 
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You can do this but you run the risk of melting the thread and having an even bigger mess.
If you are using Rayon threads, NO CHANCE OF MELTING. You can run a soldering iron across Rayon & it will not melt < That is how some Patches are make w/Soldering Gun.

Polyester thread has much lower melting point. Use the Heat Gun like a HAIR DRYER... Just wave if over the embroidery until it Shrivels back into the stitches, then STOP. If U are experiencing Melting, instruct ur employees to do it with eyes open!!

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I just did a quick test and seem to have good results with decreasing tension and the holding a hair dryer on high right on it for about 30 seconds (did not want to fire up the dryer)
 
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Could you help me find the Stitch era group so I can find this test file? Thanks
Troy, Go to:

StitchEraUniversal : STITCH ERA UNIVERSAL Embroidery Software

There are certainly many techniques. You can find many tutorials on the web. Try them all and pick what works for you.

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I have been working 98% on flat embroidery but want to do some 3d embrodiery as I am growing the bizz.. I have a Tajima machine and using the Wilcom Digitizer.. But many questions in my head to get better results... What is the "common " gap used to cut the foam?? I use Satin Stitch and a gap of 0.3mm and the problem is the residues when I tear the foam. did not try less than that yet... And some time when I embroider caps I run a same figure in the bottom To stabilize the area where the foam will be placed..IS THAT Necessary??.. I mean... that's how I tried.. The heat gun is cool and I will try it... but can somebody give more and specific tips?.. Will be appreciated!..
 
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