I just got an order for 145 hats embroidery on front and back. I have a 1 head Toyota 9100, would you outsource this qty? Seems like it would take me a got 14 hours or more. Let me know what you would do and if the 14 hours on a 1 head machine is way off. Thanks Troy
Yes, I would find a source to get that done and yes I would expect it to take much longer than the 14 hours you have allowed on the single head machine.
Yes, I would find a source to get that done and yes I would expect it to take much longer than the 14 hours you have allowed on the single head machine.
Depends on how much time you have to do the job.
I have a single head and have done that quantity and more myself, but I didn't try to do them all at once.
Spread out over a few days, you can do this yourself.
As to outsourcing, check to see if the cap manufacturer offers embroidery, and if they do, let them take care of it for you.
I use Otto Cap a lot and they do an excellent job on the embroidery.
Don't outsource it, I do orders of 200+ hats all the time. It will take you about 3 to 5 days because of the front and back embroidery, that is the same as 290 caps. For me a 145 cap order, front and back, comes to about $2000 profit.
I would agree, do it yourself. Unless you have lots of other work for the machine and the customer wants them ASAP. By the time you have found someone to do the job for you. Sorted out the digitising, caps etc, you could have done the job yourself.
Earl.
Don't outsource it, I do orders of 200+ hats all the time. It will take you about 3 to 5 days because of the front and back embroidery, that is the same as 290 caps. For me a 145 cap order, front and back, comes to about $2000 profit.
Hey sick puppy I need some help. I did $2000/145 caps = 13.79 Plus add the cap?
I was thinking I was going to charge somewhere around $5.04 for the front and $2.70 for the back. That puts me $6.05 per cap under what you were saying. Am I way off? I just dont get the hole pricing for embroidery...got my screen printing prices down to a T, but cannot figure out this embroidery.
As a general rule for small designs, caps and left chest logos, I charge $8 each time I have to hoop an item. $5 for cap backs, sides, and a shirt sleeve. That price can be adjusted up or down depending on the size of the design.
If I were doing this order I would charge $13 just for hooping the caps front and rear, then I would add the cost of the cap, say $2.50 each, that brings the total to $15.50. I then add a 10% charge to the total cost to cover the embroidery materials. Now you are looking at $17.05 per cap plus shipping.
I just finished a single sew out for a customer that came to $275. I have charged as high as $900 for a single Item. For me I have to look at the project and determine how much time I am going to have to put into it. Pricing an embroidery job is not as easy as you might think.
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As a general rule for small designs, caps and left chest logos, I charge $8 each time I have to hoop an item. $5 for cap backs, sides, and a shirt sleeve. That price can be adjusted up or down depending on the size of the design.
If I were doing this order I would charge $13 just for hooping the caps front and rear, then I would add the cost of the cap, say $2.50 each, that brings the total to $15.50. I then add a 10% charge to the total cost to cover the embroidery materials. Now you are looking at $17.05 per cap plus shipping.
Keep in mind that I do not charge setup fees or digitizing fees.
It has been crazy seeing the wide variety of pricing structures for embroidery. Two more questions:
Would you price it that way if it was 25 hats and 150 hats?
Do you mark up the hat or in the example $2.50 is just what it cost you?
What I do to cover the cost of caps or shirts is calculate the cost of the item plus shipping then add in 10% to cover mistakes.
The only time I adjust my pricing is if the customer only wants 1 or 2 caps and I don't have them in stock. That will increase the price or if the customer orders 50 or more they get a discount.
You need to have a formula for calculating your cost. Some people even add labor cost by the hour into the project. You just have to find a solution that works for you and your customers.
What I do to cover the cost of caps or shirts is calculate the cost of the item plus shipping then add in 10% to cover mistakes.
The only time I adjust my pricing is if the customer only wants 1 or 2 caps and I don't have them in stock. That will increase the price or if the customer orders 50 or more they get a discount.
You need to have a formula for calculating your cost. Some people even add labor cost by the hour into the project. You just have to find a solution that works for you and your customers.
Yeah I understand...I just setup my printing price matrix so easy, but now I just cannot get my head around the embroidery.
Just to add a little to the conversation... here's how we decide what goes on what machine.
Anything 1 piece to 5 pieces goes on the single head
anything 6 piece to 23 pieces goes on the two head
anything 24+ goes on the eight head.
Very few exceptions. we can hoop eight pieces in the time a 4000 stich design runs. The hat backs go even faster using the clamping systems.
Your entire job is out the door in about 6 hours.
On top of that, we can get 144 totally custom caps with up to 20000 stitches in up to 6 locations including the digitizing for less than $7 net and they are in my hands in about 2 weeks. And that includes flat panel embroidery on the visors, on the straps etc. I'd prefer to sell them, take the profits and move on.
Years ago we took the same approach, what else do we have to do, might as well run humdreds on the single head. No more! What else are we going to do? Lets see, market the business, sleep in, take a day off, play with the grandkids....
Would you outsource this order? 
