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Old January 22nd, 2009 Jan 22, 2009 7:23:04 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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I'm trying to get my website started and I'm thinking of working with cubecart or oscommerce templates. oscommerce templates are far nicer in my opinion but I don't know anything about the cart itself. I downloaded cubcart on my site but I could take it off real easily. The cubecart templates only look good when designers make custom ones which cost a good amount of money. but the oscommerce premade templates have been downloaded by others and I dont know if I want my site looking the same other peoples. However the templates look great and only cost $140. Any input as to the ups and downs of each cart would be gretly appreciated.

I am a little confused about SSL sheets. Is that all I need as far as security is concerned. If not what else is needed to have secure credit card processing. Any help is greatly appreciated and I apoloagise if this information is already available in threads.
 
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Old January 23rd, 2009 Jan 23, 2009 11:12:03 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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CRAP!! i just typed out a three page dissertation about website security and DELETED by accidentally hitting the back button instead of the NEW TAB!!!

typign away AGAIN.. give me a minute or 15
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SSL is not a SHEET. You get an SSL certificate which is just a seal to show that you have SSL enabled on your website.

SSL (secure socket layer) is essentially an encrypted tunnel that you pass all infomation that goes from your customer to your database through. SSL IS NESSECARY TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL STORE. just check out any e-commerce store, when you go there you will see that they have SSL.

You know a website has SSL when you go to any page that collects personal data (including email, passwords, shipping, and payment info) and the url changes from http://website.com to https://website.com You also see a little padlock in the browser and some even change color on secure pages.

SSLs are not expensive, and you can get a FREE shared SSL from most hosts. A shared SSL is an OK solution. Basically, when your SSL is shared, ALL of the pages on your site that should be secure (login, create account, shipping, payment, etc) will change from
http://yourdomain.com
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https://server123.hostname.com/~yourdomain

this is not ideal because it can freak out customers you obsesivly check the URL to make sure they are not getting scammed. When the .com name changes, even though your name is in that url at the end, they might not trust it because people dont know too much about how this stuff works.

With a dedicated SSL (which costs about $70 a month with a dedicated IP address)your url changes just from
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to
https://yourdomain.com

BUT, this has nothing to do with credit card information. BY LAW YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO STORE CREDIT CARD DATA UNLESS YOU MEET CERTAIN STANDARDS OR REQUIREMENTS. You need to be PCI COMPLIANT

You really SHOULD try to become PCI compliant even if you dont store credit cards.

BUT, if you have a merchant account (either from a bank, card processing company or something like paypal) chances are they will do all of that for you since they are the only ones that really need to SEE the customer's credit card number.

With a merchant account, you need a SECURE GATEWAY. These sometimes come with a merchant account, and sometimes you have to pay for them. Depends on the company. Paypal let you use theirs.

The secure gateway is similar to the SSL where they customer inputs their data and that data is transmitted through encryption. But instead of sending the data to you, that part of the data (cc info) goes to the company that is processing the credit card. There also is not change in url or webpages. This is done behind the scenes.


So basically, thats it.. Thats what you need to be secure.. its kinda nnice to have someone ask that, because MOST people dont care.. they think they will not be vistims to hackers.. but guess what, if a customer gets their info stolen from your site and you did not take the proper precautions, its YOU that will pay, because 9 times out of 10, the person who did the stealing of the info is untraceable and from another country.
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I see. So your say that merchant accounts provide the security needed. I already had a vague idea of what ssl is but you made it quite clear thanks a lot.
 
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Default Re: SSL sheet? Shopping cart?

Just to be clear,

SSL certificates have nothing to do with your merchant account.

SSL is nothing more than a secure method of communication that encrypts anything passed through them.

Your merchant account is simply a bank account.

In addition to your merchant account you need a payment processor.

Here are my recommendations on how to run a professional shop without breaking the bank,

SSL certs - www.rapidssl.com or www.geotrust.com
Payment processor - www.authorize.net
Merchant account - www.elavonms.com

The last two both provide robust online interfaces which give you all kinds or reports for deposits, pending, chargebacks, etc, etc.

I have worked with other merchant accounts and payment processors who provide essentially the same functions, but their interfaces and were nothing more than a virtual terminal and you had to call to get basic information about the status of a deposit, or a chargeback. I highly recommend a service which can give you web reports because it saves time and confusion and lets you concentrate on running your store.
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Yeah I understand the what a merchants account being a bank account. So SSL is encryption that protects information and a payment processor is essentially a virtual terminal. Thanks for the clarification and sorry if I'm a bit dense but I'm quite sleep deprived.
 
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well, its a little more involved than that.. SSL encrypts any information that is put into your database from your website ONLY on pages that you make SSL enabled. It is absolutely NOT for the payment processing. Your payment processing is a virtual terminal, but the info has to be encrypted on its way to the processing center. To do that you send it through a secure gateway
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