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farennikov · September 4th, 2006

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Originally Posted by Maize31


	Why should you rule out flash intros?

look, if your site is a showroom, then maybe flash intros are ok (as long as you have a "skip intro" link). If you are an online retailer then flash intro is not ok, especially if the site does not remember visitor's browser and plays into every time you go the site.
Generally speaking flash intros are not a great idea because 1) they take longer to load (dial-up visitors can hardboil an egg while intro is loading), 2) they usually don't carry any important information and 3) not functional.

Twinge · September 11th, 2006

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Originally Posted by Buechee


	You made some very good pionts. I have to ask what are frames? I might know, but called it something else.

Frames are where a page has two seperate webpages (sepeate html files) displayed onscreen at the same time. This is usuaully used for something like a navigation bar on the side or an advertisement on the top.

Frames are bad because they go against the general way the Internet works. You can't easily bookmark individual pages with frames - only the front page. Google won't even browse through frames at all. There are more reasons to not use frames, which can be Googled for if you are interested. SSI is just as easy to use as frames and is a much better alternative; dynamic pages (e.g. php, etc.) can do the job very well too.

Solmu · September 11th, 2006

Frames are one of those things that seemed like a good idea at the time. They were a hobbled together solution based on the limited technology available at the time. Now that web development has come so much further there's no excuse for using them (and very few people do).

Buechee · September 19th, 2006

Thanks for that clarity on frames. The black shirts know it all, ask them or you could ask the guy in the blue shirt, he knows a lot as well, lol.

queerrep · September 19th, 2006

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Originally Posted by Buechee


	The black shirts know it all, ask them or you could ask the guy in the blue shirt, he knows a lot as well, lol.

Hey, don't forget the cute guy in the brown shirt.

Buechee · September 20th, 2006

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Originally Posted by rlfreshwater


	Hey, don't forget the cute guy in the brown shirt.

Can't forget Lou, he taught me how to press. His video was all I needed to press. From there it was just getting the time and temp right.

Much love to this forum.

Parlophone · April 5th, 2007

the bebopjeans and hemjeans websites SUCK. flash is only effective when the user cannot tell it's flash. all other flash sucks period.

forfeitclothing · April 26th, 2007

I think flash intro's make a site look more profesional, which increases the trust I have in a website. But I only like flash intro's in a corner for a logo, not the entire webpage, because I am to busy to watch a movie before i get to the actual website, I think it's ok to have them, just dont make it to long. and definatly make it bipassable (is that even a word)

Rodney · April 26th, 2007

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	I think flash intro's make a site look more profesional, which increases the trust I have in a website.

I actually have the opposite reaction with a flash intro. I always feel like it was an unprofessional designer that put the site up and I don't think I've ever made a purchase from a site with a flash intro.

Look at the places that are big: amazon, google, threadless, oddica...large professional sites where people are spending thousands of dollars per day don't use flash intros.

oddica · April 26th, 2007

> amazon, google, threadless, oddica

i just spit up a bit. Which one of these companies doesn't belong?

We are still small, with only 5300 registered users.
(threadless last I read was 450,000 and growing
2 percent a month) Happy customers, quality product, but we are
not yet a blip on the radar.

that said, I appreciate that you are a fan of what we are doing.

sorry to derail an intriguing thread, carry on

Rodney · April 26th, 2007

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	i just spit up a bit. Which one of these companies doesn't belong?

LOL, so maybe I stretched it a bit.

But your production and delivery (not to mention the lack of a splash page) give you the appearance of a much bigger company

oddica · April 26th, 2007

i agree with Rodney on the Flash Intro ... I'm not a web guy,
but I occasionally pay attention to the discussion at sites like YayHooray,
Newstoday, k10k, CPLuv, etc. And when someone has a flash intro,
they typically get laughed back to the year 2000, back to when 2Advanced
was the happening web site.

oddica · April 26th, 2007

> LOL, so maybe I stretched it a bit.

fair enough

Solmu · April 27th, 2007

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Originally Posted by Rodney


	I don't think I've ever made a purchase from a site with a flash intro.

Technically you have: Threadless have used them from time to time (e.g. during the hoodies hoodies hoodies ha ha ha ha hell week). Although you may not have made a purchase when they had those up, and they weren't just flash intros (that is, the flash intro loaded into the middle of their normal homepage, with other links to products being a minimal number of clicks away).

One more for the road: flash intros suck

Rodney · April 27th, 2007

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Originally Posted by Solmu


	Technically you have: Threadless have used them from time to time (e.g. during the hoodies hoodies hoodies ha ha ha ha hell week). Although you may not have made a purchase when they had those up, and they weren't just flash intros (that is, the flash intro loaded into the middle of their normal homepage, with other links to products being a minimal number of clicks away). One more for the road: flash intros suck

Since the flash was in their homepage with the rest of the shopping information, I didn't classify that as a flash "intro"

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