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Quote: Originally Posted by dub3325 Bottom line....don't use flash.

yes you can, if you have "boring? wasting your time here!" page . I mean, you can still use flash, music, your photos, anything... but not for intro, put it aside -- let visitors decide if they want so see it.

the most important is how quick they can see your stuffs from the homepage

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Quote: Originally Posted by Republicofstates ok... and what do you think about advertising? for example adwords, and bannerexchange...

everyone is busy talking about the site and forget to answer this question

before advertising you may like to try social shopping site (I posted some of them on this threads), has anyone tried these sites?

oh yeah of course, monkeylantern is right, branding is most important...

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Quote: Originally Posted by monkeylantern NO!!!!!!!!!!

err,, how about short jingle?

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Ross B

The trouble with going hyperbolic immediately, is that there is nowhere left to move for any extra emphasis.

My thought for the day...think I'd better go back to test pattern...

 

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monkeylantern

I went red!

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Twinge

And underlined!

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OK...and I suppose there is always italics. And exclamation marks to add after that. Soooo, one bloke's hyperbole is another's understatement. Where would we be without relativity theory?

 

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knight7th

What's wrong with flash intros is:

a) Search engines can't/don't index them
b) Many people (believe it or not) don't have or use flash, and all they see is a blank page
c) They're annoying, I almost always skip them


While we're on the subject, no flash navigation period. Flash images are OK, but clever flash navigation sometimes doesn't work...

 

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Totally agree with points A and C, as far as "many" without Flash player - that's really subjective - many is how many, 2-3%? I look in my websites analytics and pretty much everyone has some version of Flash and traffic is mostly US/Canada. Maybe you're talking about some underdeveloped countries where they still use IE 4 or something...

Quote: Originally Posted by knight7th What's wrong with flash intros is: a) Search engines can't/don't index them b) Many people (believe it or not) don't have or use flash, and all they see is a blank page c) They're annoying, I almost always skip them While we're on the subject, no flash navigation period. Flash images are OK, but clever flash navigation sometimes doesn't work...

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Quote: What's wrong with flash intros is:

Quote: c) They're annoying, I almost always skip them

Same here. Very few are even interesting!

 

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Quote: Originally Posted by farennikov Totally agree with points A and C, as far as "many" without Flash player - that's really subjective - many is how many, 2-3%? I look in my websites analytics and pretty much everyone has some version of Flash and traffic is mostly US/Canada.

The official numbers (from a survey commissioned by Adobe, so it could be biased) state that only 2% of users don't have some type of Flash installed. However, 15% don't have Flash 7 installed - and that's a big chunk of people. This is purely from English speaking respondants as well.

Other reports I've seen (mostly from website stats) range from about 4% to 25% of visitors that weren't able to view their Flash content. On the high end they're probably including Search Engines, but I know at least one report of 10% specifically excluded the bots.

So... is this enough people to worry about? That's up to you. I think it is. I also think the 15% of people still on 800x600 resolution is worth worrying about too, but that will also depend on your site and your goals.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Twinge Other reports I've seen (mostly from website stats) range from about 4% to 25% of visitors that weren't able to view their Flash content... So... is this enough people to worry about? That's up to you. I think it is. I also think the 15% of people still on 800x600 resolution is worth worrying about too, but that will also depend on your site and your goals.

First, I have to say that I do have a bias against Flash because it is a proprietary standard. However, my guess is that people who don't have Flash installed are the same people who simply do not shop online.

For me, the most important question is whether a pretty Flash site will draw in enough additional customers to make up for those who are alienated by it. Unless the answer is overwhelmingly "Yes," then it's not worth the time, trouble and expense in my book. YMMV.

 

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1. One to two click shopping interface.
2. First page attractive product graphic icons
3. Search engines optimized
4. Images with real people wearing them
5. Overall nice impression of the site visit

 

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