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Old April 15th, 2007 Apr 15, 2007 12:50:57 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,

Sorry its been a while since last post but been extremly busy designing my website and getting everything I need to start selling T shirts!

I was just wondering if anyone has used Microsoft frontpage to design their web page? I actually knew very little about web design a month ago, but have kind of taught myself using tutorials!

My main question is, do you think I will have any problems uploading the site when most of my pages have been designed using layers. I have used some tables but found them very restricting when trying to overlap certain parts!

Another question? I am thinking of using paypals free checkout to incorporate into my site, but I think it will take a long time to do as I have to copy and paste the code generated by the descriptions I put in, and add this to every item I am selling! I dont think I can actually do this until the site goes 'live, so nobody will be able to buy anything until I have entered all the codes!! Is there an easier way of doing this on a very tight budget?

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Old April 15th, 2007 Apr 15, 2007 4:38:34 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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I have used FP when designing a website. Thinking you should save the layered file as a jpeg then import into tables for FP. I had no problem when creating my site and using Paypal. I just got lazy and havent finished it....lol
 
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Old April 16th, 2007 Apr 16, 2007 3:53:24 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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i write my code by hand using a text editor like notepad, but that's because i'm nerdier than most haha. seriously though, the best way to learn html is to tweak source code from websites you like by hand. you'd be surprised how much you can learn and apply when you read and understand every single line of code.

if you dont have the time or ability, use dreamweaver.
if that's over your head, frontpage is adequate.
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Old April 16th, 2007 Apr 16, 2007 6:11:28 AM -   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks. I have actually designed everything including layers inside fp, so I guess it should be fine! It looks good in the browser when I view it, I think some older versions of browsers may not support layers though? Good luck on getting yours finished....
 
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Thanks, any info is helpful! I have tried looking at the code in FP in split veiw to see what happens, but I have a heck of a lot to learn on that score! I like to just place my images and text in a layer or table and let the software do the hard work! I have looked at dreamweaver, but it looked way beyond my intelligence! I use Illustrator and photoshop to 'mock up' my page and add any groovey stuff and I am liking the way it is turning out! I just hope it works when I upload it!
 
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Old April 16th, 2007 Apr 16, 2007 7:30:38 AM -   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: Web design using Microsoft Front page

Oh my!

Front page is not the most user friendly program out there!

As a professional web designer i would say stay far away from layers as when you upload, the server may not allow the layers to be displayed properly.

Tables can be a pain in the rear but after playing with them for a bit you'll see that they are they way to go.

If you have any specific please feel free to contact me and i'll help you out.
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I was afraid somebody might say something like that! Oh dear! I thought I was doing so well. I think my pages were looking great as I had spent a lot of time working on getting them exactly how I wanted them!

I have been working on this for about a month. I deliberatly stayed away from templates as I couldnt set the page out how I wanted. I also needed to put my logo on top of some other borders, and tables wouldnt seem to allow me to overlap!

My next question then would be this.. Can I use what I have already designed in another application? I have dreamweaver, but know nothing about... It seems very complicated, wheras I had just got to grips with FP!

Any suggestions would be welcomed. Thanks
 
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I was afraid somebody might say something like that! Oh dear! I thought I was doing so well. I think my pages were looking great as I had spent a lot of time working on getting them exactly how I wanted them!

I have been working on this for about a month. I deliberatly stayed away from templates as I couldnt set the page out how I wanted. I also needed to put my logo on top of some other borders, and tables wouldnt seem to allow me to overlap!

My next question then would be this.. Can I use what I have already designed in another application? I have dreamweaver, but know nothing about... It seems very complicated, wheras I had just got to grips with FP!

Any suggestions would be welcomed. Thanks
If frontpage is working for you, then you really don't need to switch.

If you were starting from scratch, I would have suggested spending the learning curve time on Dreamweaver instead of Frontpage.

But since you're already working with frontpage, then you may want to stick with it since you have your site looking the way you want.

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Another question? I am thinking of using paypals free checkout to incorporate into my site, but I think it will take a long time to do as I have to copy and paste the code generated by the descriptions I put in, and add this to every item I am selling! I dont think I can actually do this until the site goes 'live, so nobody will be able to buy anything until I have entered all the codes!! Is there an easier way of doing this on a very tight budget?
You could use a free shopping cart (like cubecart, which is available at cubecart.com) to create products on your site.

It can seem complicated at first, but once installed, it will be much easier to handle orders, products, customers, payment options, etc. They also have lots of help available in their cubecart forums.
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Thanks again to everyone thats replied! I will give it some thought to what I do next before getting too carried away. I will definately checkout cubecart too! I think having a few options is the best way to go.. No final decisions need to be made just yet. I have much work to do............
 
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Godaddy offers a pretty nice shopping cart for 17.99 a month.
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Old April 23rd, 2007 Apr 23, 2007 9:32:56 AM -   #11 (permalink)
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My next question then would be this.. Can I use what I have already designed in another application?

Yes. However, it still may not be the best to do it this way:

I personally wouldn't recommend FrontPage for anything, though it does work. It tends to add a bunch of extra junk to the code of a page and really makes a mess of things in general, IMO =) (This "extra junk" in the code will probably still be there after editing the page with Dreamweaver or such.)

You'll get the cleanest, most precise results doing a site manually with something like NoteTab. Failing that, I'd recommend Dreamweaver or possibly Nvu (a free one that's supposed to be pretty good, but I haven't tried it yet).


Whatever you end up using, though, make sure you test the page in at least both Internet Explorer and Mozilla Firefox. If your page only looks right in IE, you're only hitting 3/4ths of your audience!
 
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Yes. However, it still may not be the best to do it this way:

I personally wouldn't recommend FrontPage for anything, though it does work. It tends to add a bunch of extra junk to the code of a page and really makes a mess of things in general, IMO =) (This "extra junk" in the code will probably still be there after editing the page with Dreamweaver or such.)

You'll get the cleanest, most precise results doing a site manually with something like NoteTab. Failing that, I'd recommend Dreamweaver or possibly Nvu (a free one that's supposed to be pretty good, but I haven't tried it yet).


Whatever you end up using, though, make sure you test the page in at least both Internet Explorer and Mozilla Firefox. If your page only looks right in IE, you're only hitting 3/4ths of your audience!
Thank you for responding!! You have just saved me from wasting any more time with FrontPage!!! I am afraid to say, that although my site looked absolutely great on Internet explorer, when I finally set it up to view on Mozzilla, I clearly had a big problem!!! My layers were way out of synch!! In fact it looked a mess!

Well I suppose if nothing else the experience has taught me a little about web design. I will be much more careful in future...

I have already started viewing some tutorials on dreamweaver 8, and plan to re-design in this.. I have to say, I really know nothing about this software, but I plan to teach myself, as after all, I am supposed to be a graphic designer! I have already hit my first stumbling block when trying to set up a new site! I have to put in my ftp address and password and then test it, but it wont accept it!
Now I dont know if I am supposed to be putting my web hosting address in (it is being hosted by 123-reg.co.uk) or my Ftp address (I was going to use aol's free one) I am sure I will get there eventually..... If anyone has any useful tips about dreamweaver, or definate no, no's then pleeeeease let me know before I get too carried away! THANKS
 
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I started out with frontpage 97 and currently using Dreamweaver 8 and Frontpage 2003. If you are interested in using frontpage and paypal I found a neat little tool you can use. 1-2-3 PayPal Website Payments for
Microsoft FrontPage.

1-2-3 PayPal Website Payments for Microsoft FrontPage

Its a wizard to insert paypal shopping cart buttons using frontpage. It only works with FP 2000, XP, and 2003. Hope it helps.
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Here is another paypal tool.

PaypalShopBuilder.com :: Ecommerce Shopping Cart :: Paypal Shop Builder ::

You could create your products in it and use frontpage to edit the layout to give it a more custom look.
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Default Re: Web design using Microsoft Front page

i'm using FP to create my website,but i have a problem during save my picture gallery.There is instruction asking me to save at the web-based FP.And i dont understand exactly what they mean.
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