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Old November 7th, 2005 Nov 7, 2005 9:56:30 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Whenever you see paypal as the payment method, does it decrease your respect for the company/website?
 
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Old November 7th, 2005 Nov 7, 2005 11:30:03 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Not really. I feel paypal is widely recognized as a safe way to pay.
 
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Old November 8th, 2005 Nov 8, 2005 12:48:38 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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Not really. I feel paypal is widely recognized as a safe way to pay.
Personally, for me it does. Don't get me wrong, I trust paypal and everything its just that when I go to a site and it sends me to paypal to pay, I realise it's definitely a smaller operation. It's a minute turn off as I will still purchase but i've made a mental note of it.
 
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Old November 8th, 2005 Nov 8, 2005 12:52:22 AM -   #4 (permalink)
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Personally, for me it does. Don't get me wrong, I trust paypal and everything its just that when I go to a site and it sends me to paypal to pay, I realise it's definitely a smaller operation. It's a minute turn off as I will still purchase but i've made a mental note of it.
The problem is, Paypal has now become extremely competative for the seller. If you add up all the various rates, currency conversion, authorised vs non-authorised cards, for may international sellers, Paypal is actually now cheaper than a merchant account.

I wish it wasn't true.
 
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Old November 8th, 2005 Nov 8, 2005 4:04:46 AM -   #5 (permalink)
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Whenever you see paypal as the payment method, does it decrease your respect for the company/website?
A little.

Definitely not enough to ever cost a sale though. It's a strange thing - it will definitely affect my opinion of the company, and yet it won't have any practical impact at all.

Even exclusively using PayPal for a site's shopping cart system won't cost a sale, though I do think it's ugly and badly programmed.

Personally I'll be launching with PayPal. I don't want to (because it lowers respect & sell through, and because PayPal screws its customers too often for my liking), but it is by far the cheapest and easiest option for small volume.
 
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Old November 8th, 2005 Nov 8, 2005 10:40:19 AM -   #6 (permalink)
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It's a strange thing - it will definitely affect my opinion of the company, and yet it won't have any practical impact at all.
When I've seen people launch sites in the past (in a non-shirt forum) there's always two-three people who speak up and ask if they can use something other than paypal. I think there is a small percentage of potential customers who are just flat out against it for a variety of reasons (Ebay disputes with Paypal are notoriously messy) or feel out of the loop because they don't have an account with them.

I'll be using it as well, but I'm going to try to make it less threatening as possible. No Paypal logo on the front page, maybe an easy (but bold) explaination before buying that they do not need an account to pay for the items. Maybe I can avoid the 'negative' opinion and highlight the fact that it doesn't have any practical impact on my store.
 
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I'll be using it as well, but I'm going to try to make it less threatening as possible. No Paypal logo on the front page, maybe an easy (but bold) explaination before buying that they do not need an account to pay for the items. Maybe I can avoid the 'negative' opinion and highlight the fact that it doesn't have any practical impact on my store.
I like the way our new member does it at www.mrfunkleberry.com

Paypal, but doesn't shout it in your face.
 
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Old November 8th, 2005 Nov 8, 2005 11:07:17 AM -   #8 (permalink)
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I agree with most of the posts. I use paypal all the time on eBay, but when it is used for a website, it seems a little cheap. I haven't decided If I will use it or not.

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I like the way our new member does it at www.mrfunkleberry.com
I was surprised that mrfunkleberry used Paypal. It's a very professional website with Paypal. I think if more and more people start accepting payments through Paypal, it will not seem as unprofessional.
 
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Old November 8th, 2005 Nov 8, 2005 6:34:06 PM -   #9 (permalink)
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There are a lot of VERY large websites that use PayPal, it's just not the small seller.

The fact is, they've almost created their own little "poker chip" type currency. There is a whole buying segment that has "money in their paypal account" that they use for various purchases that they may not have made otherwise.

I don't know if I'd use it as the ONLY option unless I had to, but I have a dedicated merchant account and I *still* offer PayPal because some people just prefer to pay that way. I get a lot of people that still with PayPal even though I accept Visa/Mastercard/American Express and Discover.

I don't see it as cheap at all. I don't think the average customer cares much as long as it is integrated properly. Now that they don't require you to have a PayPal account to make a purchase, it's even easier.

Ideally, I think it's a good idea to have your own merchant account where you don't send the customer to a third party website to complete their purchase, but I wouldn't hold it against someone.

In fact, I recently bought almost $100 worth of t-shirts from one guy just because I had a PayPal balance and his site had MANY designs that I had to have
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Old November 8th, 2005 Nov 8, 2005 7:09:12 PM -   #10 (permalink)
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G'evening everyone . . .

Paypal also has a Virtual Terminal . . if your buyer doesn't feel comfortable using their CC over the net . . offer to take their information over the phone . . PP virtual terminal is a flat rate -- $20.00 -- monthly . . no other fee's . .

I have used it many times, and its a breeze...
now, if you don't list the buyers email addy in the VT they won't ever know that it was Paypal . . .

I've been a member with PP when they 1st started out as X.com
.. it's well over 5 years now . . . and only had ONE issue *knocking on wood*~.
. . but still got my money that was owed to me . ..

I have all account available through PP -- personal, Business, and the Virtual Terminal
and have thought of getting rid of my Merchant acct, and setting up another computer just for CC transactions at my shop through the virtual terminal
it doesn't take anymore time than it does to swipe a CC, key in the amount, have the buyer sign a slip and then hit the batch button at the end of the day . .
really!! . . no big deal . . .

As long as you CYA with your shipments, you have nothing to fear with PP.


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Old November 8th, 2005 Nov 8, 2005 8:20:35 PM -   #11 (permalink)
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I think if more and more people start accepting payments through Paypal, it will not seem as unprofessional.
I definitely agree with this, and I think we are starting to see it happen at the moment - probably due to the explosion in eCommerce sites starting with lower and lower amounts of start-up capital (but not necessarily unprofessional businesses - they don't correlate 100% like they once did).

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I have a dedicated merchant account and I *still* offer PayPal because some people just prefer to pay that way.
PayPal's buyer protection is a lot easier to claim (since I've used it before) than finding out 1) What protection my credit card offers, and 2) How to apply for it.

So if a merchant offers both PayPal and direct CC I'll often use PayPal. There have definitely been purchases (these mostly on eBay) I wouldn't have made if I couldn't use PayPal due to trust issues.

I can think of at least one t-shirt I purchased that I would have been a lot more comfortable if the merchant had offered PayPal. If the t-shirt had been any more expensive (it was on sale), or any less good (it was excellent), I wouldn't have made the purchase. As it was I barely made the purchase.
 
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Old November 9th, 2005 Nov 9, 2005 8:32:09 AM -   #12 (permalink)
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We just added Paypal this week because we were flat-out losing sales of customers who do all their online shopping exclusively through the service. We were receiving more and more requests to add it, and since doing so we have seen an increase in business.

There are many people who still don't want to use their CC's online. Also many college kids may not have CC's but their parents will put money in their Paypal account so they can buy stuff online.

I would strongly suggest adding it if you are only accepting CC's. Paypal has lost the "cheap" cache it used to have.
 
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Old November 9th, 2005 Nov 9, 2005 12:29:22 PM -   #13 (permalink)
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I've been a member with PP when they 1st started out as X.com
.. it's well over 5 years now . . . and only had ONE issue *knocking on wood*~
Same here. I remember they used to be more of an actual bank (when they were x.com)

I think they've actually gotten better since they got bought by ebay. More professional.

I lost my PayPal debit card over the weekend (stupid me left it in the ATM machine).

I cancelled the card online and requested a new one and the replacement got declined. I called up customer service at 7PM on a Sunday evening and it was sorted out within a few minutes.
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Old November 10th, 2005 Nov 10, 2005 8:50:05 AM -   #14 (permalink)
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Default Re: Do you see Paypal as a turn off?

Conversely now, do you think offering ONLY paypal would be a turnoff? Paypal is able to accept credit card and what not so do you think that only having it is a turnoff?
 
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Old November 10th, 2005 Nov 10, 2005 8:55:47 AM -   #15 (permalink)
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I think it should be implemented as with my link to www.mrfunkleberry.com above. You don't know until you buy something. No time to be disgusted by the cheapness!
 
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