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Old 4 Weeks Ago Oct 21, 2009 2:14:49 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default How many mug presses (roughly)?

Just thinking of buying a dye sub/mug press set-up and was wandering (roughly will do) how many prints (assume full colour complete wrap) I would get from a set of 125ml dye sub inks?

With the price of the inks being so high I really cant commit without knowing.

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Just thinking of buying a dye sub/mug press set-up and was wandering (roughly will do) how many prints (assume full colour complete wrap) I would get from a set of 125ml dye sub inks?

With the price of the inks being so high I really cant commit without knowing.

Thanks in advance

Martin
Greetings Martin,

No one will be able to accurately answer that exact question. There are still too many variables. For example, a dominant pink background on a full wrap uses less ink, than if it were purple. Another example: 11 oz. or 15 oz mugs.

Better would be a cost per print estimate. By your reference I'm going to assume you are looking at ArTainium UV+ inks.

If so, then the most reasonable estimate that could be provided would be 1.5 to 2.0 cents a square inch. That is still a SWAG, but I think close.
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Default Re: How many mug presses (roughly)?

Thankyou Jack, that is most helpful.

Im in nottingham UK and the inks i am considering are by Rotech, this maybe the same people as you mention, i dont know.

I have just found a supplier here that is offering sublimation inks for around £25 for 125ml which is half the price of the rotech inks.
They are sold under the name of InkTec.

Anybody have any experience of these Inktec inks?

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Default Re: How many mug presses (roughly)?

i too was looking at the very same thing, but for now decided to use the laser film to print them, and see how it goes.
 
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I've been working with cheaper inks for a while now and have come to the conclusion that I and many other have done before. Save yourself a lot of grief and go for the Sawgrass licensed inks, Rotech or Artainium better still go for SubliR through a Ricoh printer.

I've been working with sublimatiuon for many years and have been testing these inks as it's something I've always been curious about. I managed to get pretty good results but getting a profile written isn't easy and the suppliers aren't forthcoming with support for the inks, so you're on your own.

Sublimation inks are expensive, fact, but you can still make a decent profit, get good support and give your customers the best possible product.

I've just switched to the Ricoh and thus far it is proving so much better than the Epsons, it's the major breakthrough that was needed. No more clogged heads or often messy bulk ink systems.

Justin :-)

PS Interesting to see you're in Nottm. I'm born and bred there, moved away 2 yrs ago. Still buy from Xpres in Donno' though!
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Martin,

Just tried to PM you but your box is full :-(

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Hi Justin,

Have you used the Inktec inks before?
After a bit of looking about I have found that they are imported from china.
What are the problems with the cheapo inks?

I buy from expres as well, pain in the backside that i still have to pay for delivery and im only 5 miles up the road!!

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Default Re: How many mug presses (roughly)?

Hi Martin, yes it was the inktec that I've been using, still have some here. They worked ok in my D120 refil. carts but not so well in a bulk system in my 1400. I've just imported a press from China and did think about getting the inks there as they are so cheap. Some Chinese companies help with a profile.

I found I was spending so much time getting each image to look right it just wasn't worth the hassle. I'm sure with more perseverence the inks would be fine but I don't have the time or funds to keep trying. Got a custom made profile but this was no good and the inks supplier just ignored all of my emails except the orders!

Will PM you as well.
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