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Old October 11th, 2009 Oct 11, 2009 3:48:37 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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I am branching out with my dye dub/heat transfer printing and would love to strat a range of kids clothing/accessories. I have previously been printing on Vapor shirts which are poly or poly/cotton blend. I am having trouble finding infant wear blanks that is poly, but plenty that are cotton. Does dye sub & heat transfer method work on cotton garments, or does it have to be poly?
 
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Default Re: Printing on different materials

Kids Blanks stocks 65/35 blends and well as 100% poly.
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Old October 11th, 2009 Oct 11, 2009 7:39:26 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Dye sub -poly
heat transfer - cotton and poly
 
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Old October 12th, 2009 Oct 12, 2009 5:39:57 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Printing on different materials

It will only transfer to the poly portion of the thread and not onto cotton threads at all. A 50/50 will look all washed out, which works with some designs but not all. the more poly on the thread the more that transfers. If you want a soft ink on cotton then print it with Sericol TC Techarge discharge inks. 1-88-SERICOL
 
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Old October 15th, 2009 Oct 15, 2009 5:50:21 AM -   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: Printing on different materials

This 100% Cotton T-shirt was printed with Sub ink on Chroma Blast transfer paper still experimenting with pressure and times.

Waiting on Epson Damper Ciss Heat Transfer Pigments from INKJETCARTS in the States and put it on a dedicated printer i believe the outcome will greatly improve the graphics

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What about the shadow?
 
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What about the shadow?
I have a sheet of photo paper underneath it so the lounge cover does not show through
 
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Default Re: Printing on different materials

Great test to try....sublimation ink on Chromablast paper...works.....but there is a better solution..a paper available from reputable supply companies called ITrans light. This paper is printed on with sublimation ink and transfered to 100% cotton or cotton poly blends...this stuff is great, I use it all the time. Feel free to call me for a supplier of the product.

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For those of you who sew, you can buy some materials off the roll.
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Default Re: Printing on different materials

Mike - could you post some photos of cotton or cotton/poly shirts made w/ dye sub inks and iTrans Light paper? I have a potential customer that needs darker colored infant / toddler shirts and so far I've only found those in cotton. Another member was singing the praises of dye sub on cotton/poly and how his customers just loved the results .. we did some testing ourselves, and unless they are really looking for a muted look, it DOES NOT work (which I knew in the first place).
Are you truly satisfied w/ the results using this paper? Thanks so much!
 
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This 100% Cotton T-shirt was printed with Sub ink on Chroma Blast transfer paper still experimenting with pressure and times.

Waiting on Epson Damper Ciss Heat Transfer Pigments from INKJETCARTS in the States and put it on a dedicated printer i believe the outcome will greatly improve the graphics

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What was the temp/time/pressure used for the shirt in the photo? Results are impressive! What about the wash test? Thx!
 
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What was the temp/time/pressure used for the shirt in the photo? Results are impressive! What about the wash test? Thx!
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I used Med. pressure and for 45 seconds at 200c. I’m still waiting on the ink and ciss system from inkjet carts, it has special ink for sublimating on 100% cotton and canvas infact any material that withstand the heat press at 200c. As far as washing goes I have washed the item three times and left it out on the clothes line for three days in the elements
It has returned a result of 95% + in colour and clear lines, like I said I want to try this ink I’m waiting on when it arrives I will post more photo's

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So why is the dye sub ink adhering to the cotton - what's on the Chromablast paper that binds the inks to cotton?
 
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I think its binding to the transfer paper.
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So why is the dye sub ink adhering to the cotton - what's on the Chromablast paper that binds the inks to cotton?
The Chromablast paper has a binding agent on it. It leaves a very slight feel to it but after the first wash it dissolves as there is no ink in the clear section, I only fell upon this system from leads in this forum and started to experiment like I said I’m waiting on this ink from inkjetcart to see what results I receive. I should have the ink in a couple of days and will publish photos of the product before and after washing. The ink comes from the States and I live in Australia I’m that confident of it I will be selling the ink and ciss systems myself in Australia

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