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Old June 12th, 2009 Jun 12, 2009 1:53:09 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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hello all,

Printing newb here. I am getting conflicting answers from various companies as to if my job can be done via sublimation, hot transfer, cut and sew etc.

I think this is because they all want me to use their service but I will be printing on 55/45 hemp cotton t's and I don't want to take any chances importing the t's and sending them to someone who overcharges or can't really do the job.

If any of you have a sec please take a look at the front of this design (assume it wraps somewhat) and let me know if sublimation would work for this or not.

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Thank you very much for your time,

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Old June 12th, 2009 Jun 12, 2009 2:08:23 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: can this be done via sublimation?

You can not sublimate to cotton. You will need to use heat transfer paper. If you are using dark tees, you will need an opaque heat trasnfer paper.
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Default Re: can this be done via sublimation?

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You can not sublimate to cotton. You will need to use heat transfer paper. If you are using dark tees, you will need an opaque heat trasnfer paper.

Yes they will be on black t's. So no need for cut and sew to do the wrap around and the logo on the sleeve? Is heat transfer cheaper then cut and sew?

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Default Re: can this be done via sublimation?

also does anyone here have experience printing with anything but silk screen onto hemp/cotton t's?
 
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Default Re: can this be done via sublimation?

Looking at the sample shirt you have posted, I'm afraid, cut and sew could be the only option. Not sure if transfer paper even comes in this size.

Sublimation is definitely not an option as it doesn't work on natural fabrics.
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Default Re: can this be done via sublimation?

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Looking at the sample shirt you have posted, I'm afraid, cut and sew could be the only option. Not sure if transfer paper even comes in this size.

Sublimation is definitely not an option as it doesn't work on natural fabrics.
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Default Re: can this be done via sublimation?

i dont think sublimation would be the best option for this kind of print, vinyl maybe would?
 
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Default Re: can this be done via sublimation?

Its not the print that is an issue as that would be a sic cut and sew shirt dye sub shirt - we do these type of designs daily. The issue is the fabric you want to use -
 
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Default Re: can this be done via sublimation?

If you can go poly, it is exaclty what a cut, sub & sew operation does daily. If you have to use the cotton hemp blend, you would have to still print, cut & sew.

If you modify the elements in your image a bit, you might be able to get close to that with a finished blank that you would have to do four or five printing operations on. That is expensive to with all the times the shirt would have to be handled.

The design is not good for heat transfers of any kind.
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If you can go poly, it is exaclty what a cut, sub & sew operation does daily. If you have to use the cotton hemp blend, you would have to still print, cut & sew.

If you modify the elements in your image a bit, you might be able to get close to that with a finished blank that you would have to do four or five printing operations on. That is expensive to with all the times the shirt would have to be handled.

The design is not good for heat transfers of any kind.

thanks, that is good info. i think we'll try and redo the design and see if we can make this more simple then a cut and sew.
 
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Default Re: can this be done via sublimation?

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thanks, that is good info. i think we'll try and redo the design and see if we can make this more simple then a cut and sew.
Just an FYI - if a shop is proficient at cut and sew they should be able to do a shirt very close to what most charge to press a premade shirt. We do full coverage cut and sew all day at the same prices places like Nodbod charge for pressing pre-made shirts. Cut and sew is actually easier to do and the results are much more professional. Do not compromise your designs as that is what you are selling not the shirt.
 
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Default Re: can this be done via sublimation?

interesting, somehow i figured cut and sew would be very difficult. i'll look into it then. thanks
 
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Default Re: can this be done via sublimation?

also what do you guys think of all over printing for this one, I had one company say they could do the design that way, does that sound unlikely?
 
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Default Re: can this be done via sublimation?

One other option to consider is using direct to garment printer. As the equipment is quite expensive to buy, you'd probably be looking to get them printed up for you.

You may need to adapt your design to suit the processes available, which unfortunately is what most of us that design our own tees, reluctantly have to do.
 
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An all over print is really cool with the right design. Its drawbacks are that the prints at seams and edges can have gaps at the points where there might be a wrinkle and it does not wrap around the edges. The other main thing is that you can not do designs that need each color tightly registered. Your design will not work for that because of your many colors that need an acurate registration and your wrap around elements.
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