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Old June 8th, 2009 Jun 8, 2009 10:40:14 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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hi everyone. just curious. how much is the cheapest sublimation bulk ink system for epson 1400. i mean i heard there are some chinese sub inks that are very cheap and wondering if anyone of you is using chinese inks. also what other brands are out there except sawgrass inks.
 
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Default Re: epson 1400 sublimation ink

Sawgrass has a monopoly on sublimation ink used in smaller inkjet printers. For those of us that use larger format machines, we are legally free to buy sublimation ink from other sources. Contrary to what some people may claim, ink from these other sources is of a similar,if not better quality than that available for small format machines and at a fraction of the cost.
 
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Old June 10th, 2009 Jun 10, 2009 1:30:33 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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Not to be a downer but your chances of success is low. First you are trying to find a cheap bulk system for an Epson 1400. Even the best bulk systems for small format printers do not work 50% of the time never-the-less a cheap one. Next you are tyring to find cheap ink from China. Even if you find a decent ink are you going to be able to get a color profile that will match the paper, ink and substrate so you get vibrant colors. If you are trying to do dye sub on the cheap stop before you waste a good chunk of change. If you are just starting off buy cartridges and learn the process. Although the cartridges are expensive it will be less then wasting 75% of your ink trying to unclog the bulk system and get colors correct.
 
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Old June 10th, 2009 Jun 10, 2009 5:51:29 AM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: epson 1400 sublimation ink

you can get cheap ones on ebay but like other posters said it may not be all you want it to be.
 
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Old June 11th, 2009 Jun 11, 2009 5:53:29 AM -   #5 (permalink)
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Even the best bulk systems for small format printers do not work 50% of the time never-the-less a cheap one.


Is this really true!? You'd include the 1400 in this bracket?


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If you are just starting off buy cartridges and learn the process. Although the cartridges are expensive it will be less then wasting 75% of your ink trying to unclog the bulk system and get colors correct.

Can you explain more? I have a fairly standard 6 colour sublimation filled CIS reservoir linked to the cartridges in my Epson.
 
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Old August 13th, 2009 Aug 13, 2009 10:01:35 AM -   #6 (permalink)
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Hi Tomence
I joined after seeing your post, i have been using Chinese Sub ink and transfer paper for 18 months now i have never had a blockage the only thing you have to do is make sure you switch your printer on at least every second day to keep the print head free on occasion i have had to do a deep clean to get a perfect test pattern but that is after i left the printer off for a few days. I use a Epson T30 4 ink system and a Epson 1410 6 ink system the 1410 could be the same as the 1400 ?? others might know.
I get as good quality print on all substrates as Sawgrass nothing against Sawgrass but so Expensive A$700+ compared to the Chinese ink A$150 and get the same results, I would put up a URL so you can see the results i get but thats against the rules i believe. I get Vibrant true color reproduction with clean crisp lines

Hope this helps you
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Default Re: epson 1400 sublimation ink

Allan may be legal to use the chinese inks...but in the US we are not legal to use...true some skirt the legalities but for me not worth the hassle of getting ICC profiles correct. As long as I can make 100% profit, I am not really concerned with the ink costs

And as to the question..or I think it was a question...about the 1400...is that a desktop small printer...yep in Epson vocabulary it is
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Old September 27th, 2010 Sep 27, 2010 7:11:21 PM -   #8 (permalink)
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Has anyone here ever purchased Ink from sinoinks?
 
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Old September 29th, 2010 Sep 29, 2010 7:25:51 AM -   #9 (permalink)
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Many good comments on its quality. You can see the customers' feedback at the following link:

Feedback reviews for sinoinks

Yea I saw the feedback on the site... but I prefer some feedback from people on this forum because there is no way of telling if any of the feedback on your site is Ledgit.
 
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I would rather pay $700 for ink that is proven then $150 plus $135 for shipping from an unproven ink. Feedback doesn't mean crap.... offer the ink to some reputable people on this forum that will test this ink to see if it doesn't wash out or crap up a printer and then maybe I might consider it.
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We bought a bulk ink system for our 1400 form Conde systems about 2 years ago called ArTanium EZ Flow system. made by Sawgrass. and from what i understand they are the only maker of sublimation inks in the US. (the only one that is legal anyway.)
 
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I don't understand what this "LEGAL" stuff is all about. So, exactly who is the INK POLICE regarding sublimation ink. How does ANYONE have the right to tell us who we can buy from? This is all TOO confusing. If it is available to purchase, it's legal!
 
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I don't understand what this "LEGAL" stuff is all about. So, exactly who is the INK POLICE regarding sublimation ink. How does ANYONE have the right to tell us who we can buy from? This is all TOO confusing. If it is available to purchase, it's legal!
I have asked this question before. Who is breaking the law when acquiring unlicensed ink? is it the consumer or the compnay selling it. When if the ink is a licensed ink only for wide format printers yet you buy it for a desktop. Who is breaking the law? The person selling it or the person buying it? If a person buys licensed ink from legitimate sources and resales it on eBay who is breaking the law?

It is hard to get an answer as the Sawgrass Dye Sub Cartel does not want anyone to figure this out.
 
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I don't think there is anything such thing as "licensed" ink. Sawgrass holds some kind of patent on ink that can be put through piezo print heads. That imho would be a fight for Sawgrass and it's competitors to work out. You can bet that if I owned an Epson printer and I could get it to sublimate with cow dung I would use it, regardless of what Sawgrass thought about it. My printer, my business what I use in it. They don't have a patent on sublimation, just on an ink formula.
 
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Pardon my french, but who the hell is Sawgrass anyway, to tell me not to buy something. IF IT IS AVAILABLE, I AM GOING TO BUY IT, PERIOD. If it as available on ebay or amazon, TOO freakin bad. I am buying it.

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