I heard of people fully dye subbing the front of shirts. Can this be done without the cut and sew process? How do yo get around the high areas of the shirt? Any Info on this process would be Helpful. Thanks
Using transfers and a heat press, the high areas are less of an issue. They won't all come out looking identical and you may experience some seam or crease flaws.
You will need large enough transfers and press, or a design that will accommodate using multiple normal sized transfers.
If you are a customer of Conde Systems they can do what they call full bleed shirts using their print services division. I have not seen one in person done this way, but I can only imagine that it would look pretty cool. They have a large Geo-Knight Press that they use and print offo of I believe an Epson 9600 (9800, 9880 or whatever the heck the model # is this week). Give them a call and ask for Allen I believe.
You can do full frontal on a tshirt but the outcome will depend on several factors including which brand shirt you use, how much solid color graphics there is in your design and where the solid colors reside on the shirt. Last but not least how flexible is your customer.
A tubular made shirt (no side seams) will lay flatter in the press and give you a little bit better results. You will want to keep solid graphics away from the areas where the arms attach to the body of the shirt as it is very hard to completley flatten that area. If you have a flexible customer who understands every shirt may look a little different then you can be ok. If they are picky you would want to do a cut and sew. Cut and sew, full color shirts are not significantly more costly then two side full coverage pre-made shirts. When we get a request for a two sided shirt we explain for $3.00 more they can get a full blown custom colored shirt. The vast majority of time they upgrade. You can see examples of full color custom cut and sew and full coverage press on a pre-made at our site - Shirts
Sam, just consult with your clients. As Mark stated, if they have an issue with the seam and underarm voids, that is the premium opportunity to upgrade to a cut and sew process.
I have included a few pics as well.
Hope this helps
Jae'
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You can do full frontal on a tshirt but the outcome will depend on several factors including which brand shirt you use, how much solid color graphics there is in your design and where the solid colors reside on the shirt. Last but not least how flexible is your customer.
A tubular made shirt (no side seams) will lay flatter in the press and give you a little bit better results. You will want to keep solid graphics away from the areas where the arms attach to the body of the shirt as it is very hard to completley flatten that area. If you have a flexible customer who understands every shirt may look a little different then you can be ok. If they are picky you would want to do a cut and sew. Cut and sew, full color shirts are not significantly more costly then two side full coverage pre-made shirts. When we get a request for a two sided shirt we explain for $3.00 more they can get a full blown custom colored shirt. The vast majority of time they upgrade. You can see examples of full color custom cut and sew and full coverage press on a pre-made at our site - Shirts
Thanks Everyone for all your input. Now I have a better understating of this process. I don't have a maxi press. I have a rotary drum press, so I won't be able to do this process anyway, but at lease I know how's it done. Thanks, Again
Thanks Sam, Jae and Mark. The shirt looks great and I just wish I could approximate the quality and artistry shown on those shirts. I have a MaxiPress on freight already and it will be the partner of our Roland wide format sublimation printer. I hope to learn more about wide format sublimation from you guys.
Craig is correct. Conde does offer full bleed shirts. They do look great. A full bleed shirt usually requires a larger printer and heat press than a lot of our clients have.
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Sam, just consult with your clients. As Mark stated, if they have an issue with the seam and underarm voids, that is the premium opportunity to upgrade to a cut and sew process.
I have included a few pics as well.
Hope this helps
Jae'
Hi Jae, on your pics, were those shirts cut and sewn or just pressed? Thanks.
The biggest issue is not so much the seams, although there is some white areas that will be visibile, but more in the arm pit area. That is why you will read that "every shirt is a unique piece of art". You can visit sites like www.nodbod.com and look at the pics and they look "perfect" yet when you receive them you will have areas, especially but not limited to, the arm pit area that does not get sublimated due to the shirt not laying completley flat. You can see this by taking a simple home iron and put it straight down on the arm pit area. This will be the same thing that happens on a MaxiPress. When a stock shirt is pressed it comes off the press looking "perfect" thus the pics are taken at this point. Once the shirt is put on the folds become apparent. Many people consider this part of the "design" much like distressed apparel. We get calls all the time if we can print like Nodbod but without the "flaws". Simply put no you can not press a pre-made shirt without the imperfections showing up. If you want a perfect full color, full coverage shirt you need to have it printed, cut and sewn. Surpisingly they are no more money to do then what Nodbod charges for a premade shirt.
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