ok thanks for that, just as my press says 45 seconds
ive done for 100 seconds and it still wants to rub off a little
but at 100 seconds the sub paper wants to burn, do i need to wrap in a teflon sheet?
Do you mean the paper singes a bit or it is actually turning dark and crispy? The paper will yellow a bit. We press our mugs at 400 degrees F for 4 min and 30 sec. I only press plastics and thin aluminum for 1 min 30.
I am not sure why it is rubbing off, we press ours for 120 seconds and have never had an issue and we even put them in the dishwasher. I am sure they are but just have to ask, you are using the dye sub inks, mugs and paper correct?
Maybe you could call whoever you got the mugs and ink from and see what they say.
Ouch. Could be bad batch of mugs, paper or ink. As above stated check with your vendor to see if these supplies you purchased are indeed for sublimatiing. Could be possible they might have sent you mugs that are used for laser/copier usage instead of sublimitable mugs.
Ouch. Could be bad batch of mugs, paper or ink. As above stated check with your vendor to see if these supplies you purchased are indeed for sublimatiing. Could be possible they might have sent you mugs that are used for laser/copier usage instead of sublimitable mugs.
the vendor told me they are not dishwasher safe, but when they put in a order from china they were ment to be dishwasher safe but are not, so he did tell me that.
i also told him dont sell me crap products
if however i find out it is the cups, i wont be buying from him again, but i will keep testing to see where the problem is coming from.
i also know there was a bad batch of mugs in australia, this could be some of them.
the paper is sub paper, and the inks are sub inks.
I am not sure why it is rubbing off, we press ours for 120 seconds and have never had an issue and we even put them in the dishwasher. I am sure they are but just have to ask, you are using the dye sub inks, mugs and paper correct?
Maybe you could call whoever you got the mugs and ink from and see what they say.
Good luck and let us know what you find out.
yes dye sub inks & paper
what temp are you using martin if you dont mind me asking.
im just new to this and need some help !
I do mugs at 400F for 4 minutes....sounds like you could have paper that is not dye sub or you have mugs that are not properly coated...I would suspect the paper as I have never, ever had paper burn...turn a bit yellow but never burn..even when pressing some objects at 400F for 5-6 minutes
I do mugs at 400F for 4 minutes....sounds like you could have paper that is not dye sub or you have mugs that are not properly coated...I would suspect the paper as I have never, ever had paper burn...turn a bit yellow but never burn..even when pressing some objects at 400F for 5-6 minutes
hi, yeah it just turned a bit yellow thats all.
its dye sub paper, as i done a test a few weeks ago on normal paper ,heheh and nothing went on the cup !
i pressed it at 195c/383f for 200 seconds med pressure, i think i was not cooking the ink long enough to set it as a gas.
my press told me 350F for 45 seconds so that must have been wrong, i was only going off what the press told me to set it.
the ink looks like its set in now, so i will just test with hot coffee what i dont drink :P and wash it a few times.
if all is good, i can sell them with out any worries.
thank you every one for your help i will keep ya's posted
I just had to double check that I wasn't needlessly doubling my production time for the past 5 years so I checked a couple of suppliers - Conde and Nova Chrome - and their directions recommend anywhere from 4 min 30 sec up to 6 min for 11 oz mugs. For a top to bottom image the suggested time was 8 min. Conde has very thorough directions (30 pages worth) for different substrates on their site.
sublimation mugs ink is rubbing off ? 
