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lindsayanng · December 27th, 2008

Ok, so here i am, about to put my very first ever dye sublimination project into the oven.. Its a pet bowl, and I am using a wrap for it..

The coastal business site said to put it in for 10 min at 400 degrees..

Here's my question, how long before i take off the wrap after the 10 minutes is up?

What would happen if i left it in took long?

And finally, can you put that SAME pet bowl into the over a second time if I decided I wanted some pictures on the back as well???

Teeser · December 27th, 2008

I've only done beer steins with wraps in the oven but you should remove the wrap and transfer right away and put it in cold water to set it. If you over cook the item the image will darken and get blurry. There was a recent thread about re-sublimating an item - sublimation mugs
I've never recooked an item.

lindsayanng · December 27th, 2008

I thought if you put ceramic in cold water after being hot it would crack??

lindsayanng · December 27th, 2008

alright, well my oven just beeped and i took the item out and removed the wrap right away and the image was REALLY faded looking.. The image on the paper looked just fine, a little pale, but from what i have read, that is somewhat normal.

Then i thought, maybe i printed on the wrong side of the paper?? is there a right/wrong side?

I have the image right paper

Teeser · December 27th, 2008

On our paper there is a right side. We print on the whiter side. You need to cool down the bowl,mugs etc or the image will bleed. I tried cooling mugs on a rack and ruined them. Did you have the wrap really tightened down?

lindsayanng · December 27th, 2008

the wrap is made specifically for that item, and yes, it was REALLY tight. I didnt print on the whiter side though.. The paper didnt come with any instructions and the website we bought it from didnt have any, and at first look, they didnt even look different.

When you say you have to cool it, do you cool it with the wrap on? because you said take the wrap off right away, and i have a hard time believing that you just toss the thing in cold water right after it was out of the oven and DONT have things crack.

martinwoods · December 27th, 2008

when we do sublimation we take it out and place in warm water until it cools and they come out great.
I am sure you did get sublimation transfer paper but it doesn't hurt to ask anyways.
I have not used coastal for sublimation, I always use conde but I am sure that they would have sold you the sublimation transfers and not inkjet.

Good luck and keep practicing

lindsayanng · December 27th, 2008

yes, i got the correct paper, and coastal even called me when they saw my order and corrected a few things that i bought that would not work for what they assumed was my setup. So they were VERY helpful in making sure that i had the correct items.

THIS IS THE PAPER I USED

And ibought some of the pre-filled cartridges for ink. Artanium UV ink. (seen here)

I am using a C88 with the color correction ICC Profile

the thing is, the image and lines were not blurry at all, they were just pale, like the ink didnt transfer all the way.. Maybe more time is needed next time?

martinwoods · December 27th, 2008

well at least they made sure everything was correct which is great.
I am not sure about the wraps, we use the mug press and I have not done any dog bowls but a friend of mine does a lot of them, maybe she will see the post and be able to advise. If not I am sure someone will know the answer.

Good luck on the sublimation stuff, it is really nice.

martinwoods · December 27th, 2008

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Originally Posted by lindsayanng


	yes, i got the correct paper, and coastal even called me when they saw my order and corrected a few things that i bought that would not work for what they assumed was my setup. So they were VERY helpful in making sure that i had the correct items. THIS IS THE PAPER I USED And ibought some of the pre-filled cartridges for ink. Artanium UV ink. (seen here) I am using a C88 with the color correction ICC Profile the thing is, the image and lines were not blurry at all, they were just pale, like the ink didnt transfer all the way.. Maybe more time is needed next time?

Those links did not work for me.

martinwoods · December 27th, 2008

They must be having issues with the site because I went there and still cannot get in.
Must be down.

lindsayanng · December 27th, 2008

Yea... I was REALLY excited to try, and i have nothing but good things to say about coastal, they were really helpful to me as a complete newbie.

I am just completely befuddled. I would really be interested to know if people who use a wrap on those things, if they change the settings a little (higher heat or more time) OR if it was because i printed on the wrong side of the paper..

I emailed coastal to see what they might have to say too.

lindsayanng · December 27th, 2008

WOW.. I guess they are having issues.. I literally was JUST there, and it ran a tad slow, but i got all the pages up. If your around, check again in 15 minuites.. usually things like that happy for just a few minutes because of server issues.

martinwoods · December 27th, 2008

since the bowl doesn't look good anyway, maybe you could try printing on a nother piece on the right sie and put it back in the oven and see if the colors are brighter at least that way you do not ruin another bowl.
Just a thought.

lindsayanng · December 27th, 2008

Thast what i'm doing now

I'm going to print the other side of the paper and maybe add 2 minutes to the time?

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