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Old August 5th, 2008 Aug 5, 2008 12:22:05 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default SUBLIMATION on Rayon/Poly blend?

Would that work? Or is Sublimation only for Polyester? I have some cool shirts but they are Rayon Polyester.

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Old August 5th, 2008 Aug 5, 2008 12:45:14 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: SUBLIMATION on Rayon/Poly blend?

I tried it; didn't look good. Never tried washing it as it was a swatch sample and by the way it transferred, I decided to not use it.
 
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Default Re: SUBLIMATION on Rayon/Poly blend?

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I tried it; didn't look good. Never tried washing it as it was a swatch sample and by the way it transferred, I decided to not use it.
thanks! That was what I was afraid of.

So, only silkscreening huh?

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Default Re: SUBLIMATION on Rayon/Poly blend?

Depending on the color of the t-shirt, the dye sublimation should look great on Polyester/Rayon material.
 
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Default Re: SUBLIMATION on Rayon/Poly blend?

Hi. I would be inclined to 'sacrifice' one of your shirts and see what happens. The sublimation will certainly work with the polyester component, but I have the feeling that it will possibly wash out of the rayon part and give the same faded look you get with poly cotton mixes. Could be wrong though, so I'd be inclined to give it a blast.
 
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Default Re: SUBLIMATION on Rayon/Poly blend?

I have not had a problem with fading. Is it possible that the paper that transfers the ink is a factor? I have only used certain dyesub transfer paper and maybe I have just been lucky....
 
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Default Re: SUBLIMATION on Rayon/Poly blend?

It all depends on what percentage of polyester is in the mix and how it is distributed. Not all poly cotton shirts fade badly.

With a new product, it's sometimes prudent to just print up one item and subject it to a wash test.

Must admit I haven't heard of rayon for years.... Where have I been.!!!
 
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Default Re: SUBLIMATION on Rayon/Poly blend?

I have used many materials like rayon and nylon and found that they do ok but lack the pop
of polyester. You may need to back off the temp to say 375 at 40 seconds. One client of
ours is big into umbrellas (nylon).
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Default Re: SUBLIMATION on Rayon/Poly blend?

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I have used many materials like rayon and nylon and found that they do ok but lack the pop
of polyester. You may need to back off the temp to say 375 at 40 seconds. One client of
ours is big into umbrellas (nylon).

Hi David, glad to see you on the forums. I know you were always so much help when I called with a question. You say nylon, does that mean I could sublimate the back packs that are 100% nylon?

Thnaks
 
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Default Re: SUBLIMATION on Rayon/Poly blend?

Mardiv,

Rayon is a cellulose fiber (not a synthetic fiber) and will perform just like cotton when it comes to dye sublimation, if there is some polyester in the blend the poly will take the color and hold it, rayon will not. Nylon )and poly amides in general) will take sublimation ink however the dyes will "migrate" within the fibers over time and you will get poor wash and rub fastness.

Hope this helps,

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Default Re: SUBLIMATION on Rayon/Poly blend?

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Mardiv,

Rayon is a cellulose fiber (not a synthetic fiber) and will perform just like cotton when it comes to dye sublimation, if there is some polyester in the blend the poly will take the color and hold it, rayon will not. Nylon )and poly amides in general) will take sublimation ink however the dyes will "migrate" within the fibers over time and you will get poor wash and rub fastness.

Hope this helps,

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Default Re: SUBLIMATION on Rayon/Poly blend?

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Originally Posted by Conde_David
I have used many materials like rayon and nylon and found that they do ok but lack the pop
of polyester. You may need to back off the temp to say 375 at 40 seconds. One client of
ours is big into umbrellas (nylon).
Hmmm..interesting...
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Hello, i'm from romania and I just bought an epson stylus sx 115 with ciss adaptor and heatpress machine, and wanna make some fine good t-shirts,but only a problem, here we have only 3-4 distribuitors of heattrasferpaper and they all told me that the paint will last only 10 washes... and also they don't know what kind of sublimatioan paint do i need, it's so wierd they are a little slouch... anyway, please can someone tell me if there's a much stronger durable paper than chromablast? and what kind of ink do i need?
now i have dye ink, and want to make printing with any kind of ink or paper,just tu last longer, on bumbac t-shirts,white, is it possible? thank you for your time, felix
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Default Re: SUBLIMATION on Rayon/Poly blend?

with sublimation sometime you just gotta try and experiment. good luck uncletee
 
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