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Old July 16th, 2008 Jul 16, 2008 11:54:11 AM -   #31 (permalink)
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dan..i assume your reffering to the forever subli-dark? does anyone know of a supplier in california that sells this paper?
 
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Old July 16th, 2008 Jul 16, 2008 4:51:59 PM -   #32 (permalink)
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I know where you are coming from Will, it seems any of us outside the US are way behind the trends in this field, the papers and systems are just not available here which is a real bummer, so we'll pay a fortune getting it into the country, less profits etc.
Maybe someone here should look into becoming a distibutor, it seems to be popular so would sell well.
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Sam, for Australian distributor of sublimatable product for dark/cotton fabric have a look at Velflex : Products - they have sublimation flock. I have some printed samples and they look and feel quite nice (just like regular flock only with full colour print). I must admit, I haven't printed on it myself yet and haven't done a wash test on samples. I'll try to look into it this week and will report with results.
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Old July 16th, 2008 Jul 16, 2008 5:05:42 PM -   #33 (permalink)
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Hi there, I have used velflex, not washed any full colour yet as only printed shirt logos in black but am about to try a few colour images on a black polo shirt for a mates birthday, will see how it goes.
'GJS Machinery' has some good stock specials from time to time.
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.I have some printed samples and they look and feel quite nice (just like regular flock only with full colour print). I must admit, I haven't printed on it myself yet and haven't done a wash test on samples. I'll try to look into it this week and will report with results.
Do let us know how you get on with the wash tests Tania. This thread has stimulated a lot of interest from folks.
 
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Old July 23rd, 2008 Jul 23, 2008 4:59:00 AM -   #35 (permalink)
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I've washed a shirt three times and the result is awful, very stiff and almost crinkly, would be okay for a shirt you are only going to wear once.
 
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Well that's the UK sourced subli flock idea out of the window Gordon. Looks we we go back to adapting our designs to only utilise white tees.

The only satisfactory method I've actually found for getting graphics onto dark tees using UK based suppliers, is cut vinyl. That is limited to simple designs though.

Apart from using inkjet transfers to get images onto dark tees, I'm all out of ideas. Transfers available in the UK are not too brilliant.
 
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We have this sublimation flock here in Europe and I dont like it main because they state wash on 40celzius so it will come of soon or later.
 
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This was the subli dark vinyl, have not tried subli flock yet!
 
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As this thread was left unfinished, I managed to acquire some subli flock myself, to evaluate its suitability.

The whole purpose to this thread, was to see if there was a way to get full colour images onto a dark fabric using sublimation. Obviously direct sublimation in total non starter, as the image would be totally invisible. The workaround being to sublimate onto light material and then adhere to the garment.

Gordon (gorgall) tried out a vinyl type material (forever subli dark) which turned out to have an unacceptable hand (feel). Thanks to Gordon for his valuable input on that.

The subli flock material is altogether different to transfers. It is a tight pile polyester material with an adhesive backing. The sublimation transfer is brought into contact with the flock and pressed at 200 degrees C, for 30 seconds. The second stage involves removing the backing sheet to expose the adhesive layer, then pressing onto the shirt at 170 degrees C, for 10 seconds to activate the adhesive.

So what are the results like? As you can see from the attached image, the picture is a little fuzzier than with a conventional transfer, but do bear in mind this is printed onto material, not gloss background, so this is to be expected. The subli flock is gentler to the touch than an inkjet transfer, but the hand is a lot more noticeable. Being material used with sublimation ink, it is highly unlikely that it will crack, feel or fade.

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This something like your looking for Sublimation Vinyl material for garment decoration
 
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