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Old August 4th, 2007 Aug 4, 2007 9:37:36 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Who's Using a Dual Printing System?

I'm curious who out there has a Dual/Hybrid printer setup.

1) Which one do you have? What software?
2) What are you running in it?
3) Would you recommend it?

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Epson 4800

Tiles, Tees, Mousepads, Puzzles, Mugs, Sheet Stock.

I love it. Runs great and is about as versatile as it gets.
 
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I just purchased one this week. I should be getting it Monday or Tuesday. I went with the epson 4800 that has the sawgrass ink both ChromaBlast and artanium UV the printer comes with the Wasatch soft rip. I am a big fan of Wasatch RIP programs and I use Colorip with my versaCamm. I got the epson with all the inks and also an extra set of partially used inks as well as the RIP for 3,050.00 which seems pretty good to me. I am actually looking to purchase a DTG machine within the next month also.
 
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I just purchased one this week. I should be getting it Monday or Tuesday. I went with the epson 4800 that has the sawgrass ink both ChromaBlast and artanium UV the printer comes with the Wasatch soft rip. I am a big fan of Wasatch RIP programs and I use Colorip with my versaCamm. I got the epson with all the inks and also an extra set of partially used inks as well as the RIP for 3,050.00 which seems pretty good to me. I am actually looking to purchase a DTG machine within the next month also.
Hello Dan,

I am new to this forum! Just starting Pazaz! Marketing Inc. We are in the process of purchasing a Roland Versa Camm VP 540 or XC 540.
From our corporate background we are used to the HP5500 Wide Format Printer but did not have the cutting or versatility of the Roland. What have we been missing!

We are new to the Decorative T-Shirt Industry and Promotional Products. We are looking for the Best Equipment with the best functionality. We will not be screen printing. We are outsourcing with a local vendor who does screen printing.

The items we are purchasing:
Roland Versa Camm - XC 540 or VP 540
Heat Press - Still researching and not sure which model and size to get.
DTG - Not Decided oN Model yet? Looking At: T Jet 3 and the Flexi Jet

Any suggestions:
Laminator?? Do we need a laminator? That has been a big question. The vendor that we are purchasing the Roland Versa Camm suggested a Laminator for our Banners, etc..? Anyone familiar with this? Or are you Dan?

Many of the participants on this forum have spoke highly of the Epson 4800.
I am considering purchasing this equipment in addition to the items I mentioned above? What else am I missing that I need to start out?

We are considering adding Embroidary after we get our feet wet and are operational for awhile!
 
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Hi Tracy,
The VersaCamm is a great machine i actually just paid off my lease for the machine 2 months ago (I have the 30" model). I run the machine pretty much 6 days a week and never had a single issue with. In reference to a laminator YES you do need one!! I use a Seal ultra 44" laminator and I laminate everything I print with (all adhesive backed vinyl). Even though they say you dont have to laminate the inks just will not hold up outside. I have done everything with it even full vehicle wraps but always always laminate everything. let me know if I could be any more help
 
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Epson 4800

Tiles, Tees, Mousepads, Puzzles, Mugs, Sheet Stock.

I love it. Runs great and is about as versatile as it gets.
Which software are you running? where did you buy it from?
And what ink are you running it in? DyeSub and Chromablast? Inkjet Transfer?

Thanks,
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I just purchased one this week. I should be getting it Monday or Tuesday. I went with the epson 4800 that has the sawgrass ink both ChromaBlast and artanium UV the printer comes with the Wasatch soft rip. I am a big fan of Wasatch RIP programs and I use Colorip with my versaCamm. I got the epson with all the inks and also an extra set of partially used inks as well as the RIP for 3,050.00 which seems pretty good to me. I am actually looking to purchase a DTG machine within the next month also.
Great, let us know how it works out, and how you like it.

Thanks,
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Thanks Dan for the information about the Laminator! That is a big help!
I am also stumped on what to buy in addition to the versa camm?
I want to purchase a DTG and have researched the TJet 3 and Flexi Jet. I have not looked into the DTG Kiosk or DTG HM1. I am also concerned with fading but etc... I want the versatility to quick print a design and the DTG offers this.

We are going to the NBM Show in Indianapolis in September so I hope to gain a great deal while attending this trade show.

So many choices!! Quality is the main issue especially for the price.

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Which software are you running? where did you buy it from?
And what ink are you running it in? DyeSub and Chromablast? Inkjet Transfer?

Thanks,
Rusty
I can't speak for him, but I have an epson 4800 duo and it is great! As for software you ask about, I use and am a big fan of MULTI-RIP. It's a printer driver on steroids that let's you do dye sub, heat transfer with multi-ink or whatever, and ALSO film negative printing, meaning you could even make films for silk screens if you wanted to.

It's $800 dollars which shocked me at first, but I tell you, it's as valuable as any program I use. They let you install with the same key code three times so it's good if you have more than one workstation.
 
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Thanks Alan, that's the kind of feedback I'm looking for.
 
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can u convert a regular epson 4800 into a hybrid?
 
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can u convert a regular epson 4800 into a hybrid?
The software is what makes it a hybrid. So if you fill it with the inks you want to use, and buy the software, yes, you can convert it to a hybrid.
 
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The software is what makes it a hybrid. So if you fill it with the inks you want to use, and buy the software, yes, you can convert it to a hybrid.
were do u purchase software to make it into a hybrid? if i convert it into a hybrid then i'll lose half my inks, is there a major diff between 4 ink and 8 ink printers?
 
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I use MultiRIP to drive my 4800 system. I have had great success with it and no problems and it works very well. If you don't need to make screen positives then you can get the lite version which is about $625 (i think). You can buy MultiRIP from conde and probably others.

MultiRIP Screen Printing, Sublimation, Transfers, Photograph and General Printing RIP Software

I use multi-ink on one side and ArTanium on the other. So far, it's working like advertised!
 
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so i only need a rip program, and 4 ink system for heat transfers and a 4 ink system for sublimation and i'm good to go with converting my 4800 into a hybrid?
 
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