I have a customer that has previously purchased custom Vapor Micro shirts from me and now wants me to put numbers and logos on thier game uniforms. Thier uniforms are new, are made by reebok, are 100% poly, and look and feel very similar to the Vaopr Micros. Basically, they want these sublimated instead of screened.
do you think it's worth the risk to take on this job? There seems to be a learning curve with the vapor micros and I'm worried that this could be the same only in this case I only have about one spare to play with. Also, these are high-end uniforms that cost about $30 (retail) each so if things go bad this could be very costly for me and my customer.
I always have the customer sign a waiver when they supply the garments. Basically letting themknow we cannot guarentee the final outcome, longevity or any discolorations when we do not provide the garments.
is there any place that I can obtain a generic waiver - where I can get a copy and adjust the wording according my needs?
Diane
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Originally Posted by lauerja
I always have the customer sign a waiver when they supply the garments. Basically letting themknow we cannot guarentee the final outcome, longevity or any discolorations when we do not provide the garments.
No one has complained yet.
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is there any place that I can obtain a generic waiver - where I can get a copy and adjust the wording according my needs?
Do you already have a written agreement or order form when you take on a job? Just add a paragraph at the end with a place for the customer to sign. I think Jim pretty much just wrote it for you. If you append it to your regular order form then it doesn't become a big deal to the customer -- "what's all this legalese I have to read through and sign?" Better to keep it simple and just use your common sense when writing it out. Essentially it just commits to paper what you already told the customer in person.
It sounds like easy money.I would tell them up front that you can only 100% gurantee products you sell. Tell them a product can look and feel the same,but not all are created equal...JB
It sounds like easy money.I would tell them up front that you can only 100% gurantee products you sell. Tell them a product can look and feel the same,but not all are created equal...JB
There is no such thing as easy money except maybe an inheritance...
Seriously, i think the disclaimer about not being 100% guarantee would be ok, especially, with this customer. However, I find that the Vapor Micros are not That Easy. We struggle to keep the lines out of the shirts and working with that vapor foam kit is a Pain in the You-know-what! Like I said - no such thing as easy money!
There is no such thing as easy money except maybe an inheritance...
Seriously, i think the disclaimer about not being 100% guarantee would be ok, especially, with this customer. However, I find that the Vapor Micros are not That Easy. We struggle to keep the lines out of the shirts and working with that vapor foam kit is a Pain in the You-know-what! Like I said - no such thing as easy money!
Tsunami,
how thick is your paper? I've been using accuplot for a while and it was leaving deep impression on fabric. I've switched to very thin paper since and the results are great.
I've been printing on Vapor for a while, just recently did a bunch of race shirts on Micros and didn't have any problems with paper lines. I don't have a foam kit - just pulling a shirt over rubber mat. Takes a bit of practice and some experimenting with time and pressure, but eventually it will come out right
how thick is your paper? I've been using accuplot for a while and it was leaving deep impression on fabric. I've switched to very thin paper since and the results are great.
I've been printing on Vapor for a while, just recently did a bunch of race shirts on Micros and didn't have any problems with paper lines. I don't have a foam kit - just pulling a shirt over rubber mat. Takes a bit of practice and some experimenting with time and pressure, but eventually it will come out right
I've been using Textprint XP for paper. The foam kit seems to eliminate the paper lines but I do get a line where the shirt hits the edge of my press. This occurs even though the foam lifts the shirt such that the top platen doesn't even really touch the bottom ofthe press at the edges?
So my three problems/fustrations with the Vapor Micros are: paper lines, lines at the edge of the press, and that anoying foam!
Youre sucessful without the foam - just pull over the press and go! In my opinion that's the only way to go. We just finished 60 shirts for a customer and it took us too much time in my opinion and we screwed up about 5 shirts.
I've been using Textprint XP for paper. The foam kit seems to eliminate the paper lines but I do get a line where the shirt hits the edge of my press. This occurs even though the foam lifts the shirt such that the top platen doesn't even really touch the bottom ofthe press at the edges?
So my three problems/fustrations with the Vapor Micros are: paper lines, lines at the edge of the press, and that anoying foam!
Youre sucessful without the foam - just pull over the press and go! In my opinion that's the only way to go. We just finished 60 shirts for a customer and it took us too much time in my opinion and we screwed up about 5 shirts.
I have a sample of Textprint XP paper and it's probably double if not triple the thickness of mine. I have seen shirts pressed with it and even on basic Vapor the impression was quite significant. I'm impressed how quickly the ink dries on it, but it's probably better for hard substrates then fabrics.
The paper I'm using is a house brand of Australian dye-sub supplier Power Digital and comes in big rolls.
With regards to platten lines - you may want to try bevelling the edges of your rubber mat a little (excacto knife should do the trick).
I'm planning to invest into a teflon pillow as soon as I'll find the size suitable for my press (20" x 25") - it's supposed to improve the whole pressing thing and be very helpful when printing over hem, seams and collars.
Ok, I think I have the GUTS to take the job. I'm going to do some experimenting tonight on the sample that I have in hand.
The next question is what should I charge? The customer wants a large number on the back and small number and small logo in two locations on the front. I was thinking about $10 a shirt and of course they provide the shirts.
Would you take this job? 
