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Old June 27th, 2007 Jun 27, 2007 4:47:45 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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hello all. im having problems with my colors matching after i press my shirts. the on-screen color looks fine but after i print and press it..my "blues" are now "green". the last time i used my printer prior to printing this image was when i printed two samples of this very same image two days ago...so i know nothing has changed on the printer settings. when i printed to two samples two days ago they printed and pressed just fine.

what i do notice when i compare the ones im printing now (color mis-matched)with one of the samples i printed two days ago (good match) is that now instead of getting a "solid" color printed on to the transfer, im getting tiny vertical lines. but only on the areas that are supposed to print out blue. so when i press the transfer it comes out green. i checked the heads and they are clean.

im using the epson 1280 with artainium inks and the icc profile.

any help at all is greatly appreciated. thanks.
 
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Old June 27th, 2007 Jun 27, 2007 5:52:06 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: color mismatch after pressing.

did you do a nozzle check before you started? the tiny vertical lines sound like banding......i'd be willing to bet that a nozzle check will show that your cyan nozzle is a bit clogged
 
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Old June 27th, 2007 Jun 27, 2007 6:19:58 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: color mismatch after pressing.

hey jan..indeed you were right. i ran the nozzle check and when it promted me to run a nozzle check pattern printout..sure enough the cyan head is clogged. whats funny is that i checked the nozzles right after the first mis-matched transfer was printed and the nozzle check pattern came out just fine. weird eh? hehe. anyways..i just got done running the clean utility several times with no success(what a surpise).. so now i have to revert to the "windex" or even maybe the "rubbing alcohol" method to unclogg.

do the epson 1280's have this head clogging problem when you use the regular inkjet inks? or is it just something that happens with sublimation inks? if its just the sub inks then i wonder what it is about them that clog so easily.

thanks again for your help..and yes you woulda won the bet..hehehe.
 
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Old June 28th, 2007 Jun 28, 2007 6:09:08 AM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: color mismatch after pressing.

[quote=chonkymonky;133814]do the epson 1280's have this head clogging problem when you use the regular inkjet inks? or is it just something that happens with sublimation inks? if its just the sub inks then i wonder what it is about them that clog so easily.

The 1280 will clog with any type ink I have three Epson printers: 1280, 1520, 2200 They all are prone to clogging. I have tried printing every day and that works most of the time but not always. I have tried various dye and pigment based inks and they all cloged at one time or another.

After many years I have learned to live with this problem by using head cleaning solution and many different cleaning techniques. The reason they clog is the same reason that they have such brillant color output, it's the Micro Piezo ink jet technology, which are very tiny ink nozzels that dispence the variable-sized ink droplets. They are so small that any ink that dries inside there will clog the printhead.


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Old June 28th, 2007 Jun 28, 2007 9:32:26 AM -   #5 (permalink)
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do the epson 1280's have this head clogging problem when you use the regular inkjet inks? or is it just something that happens with sublimation inks? if its just the sub inks then i wonder what it is about them that clog so easily.

The 1280 will clog with any type ink I have three Epson printers: 1280, 1520, 2200 They all are prone to clogging. I have tried printing every day and that works most of the time but not always. I have tried various dye and pigment based inks and they all cloged at one time or another.

After many years I have learned to live with this problem by using head cleaning solution and many different cleaning techniques. The reason they clog is the same reason that they have such brillant color output, it's the Micro Piezo ink jet technology, which are very tiny ink nozzels that dispence the variable-sized ink droplets. They are so small that any ink that dries inside there will clog the printhead.


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i see. maybe epson should somehow incorporate a self cleaning utility using some type of cleaning solution. like a sponge that's soaked in a cleaning solution where the heads would rest so that the ink in the tiny nozzles would never get a chance to dry up. just an idea.

well i left my heads sitting on a rubbing alcohol soaked paper towel overnight so im gonna go and see if that did the job. i have a job waiting and the clogged head is the only thing keeping me from completing it..so wish me luck. and thanks again for all the info. i love how i learn something new everytime i come here.
 
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Default Re: color mismatch after pressing.

ok quick update. the head unclogged..i ran two nozzle check patterns and they both came out perfect. no breaks at all in the pattern. so i go to print the image..now the "blue" prints out a light bluish shade of gray..and when i press it...i get GREEN again! i checked the printed transfer to see if i had any vertical lines like before..and even under a magnefying lens i could see no lines at all...just a solid grayish color.

i printed a couple more transfers and what i notice is that with every transfer i print, the "bluish shade of gray" becomes lighter and bluer. but everytime i press..i get green still. ill print out more to see if maybe theres some residue of the rubbing alcohol affecting it...although i doubt it considering how fast rubbing alcohol evaporates.
 
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ok im at my wits' end with this. ive printed 7 transfers..and though they all vary slightly in tone...i still get the same shade of GREEN when i press onto the shirt. the nozzles are clean. nozzle patters prints out complete with no breaks at all. all the settings are correct ..using the artainium profile. but for some reason my printer seems to think that i want to replace my blue with green. all other colors come out fine.

im attaching two snapshots for comparison. each picture has a shot of what i want..and what im getting instead. its the color on the background that is giving me problems. as you can see..the people in the pictures print out just fine. and when i press ..they come out good on the shirts as well. the first picture is of two printed transfers..on the left is what the transfer is supposed to look like..and on the right is how the transfer is printing out instead. the second picture has two shirts printed..the one on the left is what the image is supposed to look like on the shirt..and the shirt on the right is what im getting..with the GREEN color instead of the nice light blue background.

any thought, ideas, or suggestions as to how i can reslove this problem would be greatly appreciated. i have three orders lined up and this is all thats keeping me from working on them. PLEASE HELP!!
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Old June 29th, 2007 Jun 29, 2007 12:45:29 PM -   #8 (permalink)
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Default Re: color mismatch after pressing.

Have you tried this utility. it apparentl allows you to clean individual colour nozzles...and it's freeware. It got me out of a problem earlier this week.

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Old July 2nd, 2007 Jul 2, 2007 1:43:47 PM -   #9 (permalink)
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Have you tried this utility. it apparentl allows you to clean individual colour nozzles...and it's freeware. It got me out of a problem earlier this week.

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hey Nicho. thanks for the utility you suggested. i downloaded and installed it and used it...but i still have the same problem. i know the nozzles are clean since everytime i print out a nozzle check pattern it comes out just fine..no breaks in the pattern.

today i printed out a series of dots..all different shades of blue....when i pressed onto a hanes soft l'ink the dots all came out different shades gray and green. the dots that are supposed to be light blue come out light gray...and the darker blue dots come out green.

i also printed out shades of brown, purple, red etc....and they all printed and pressed just fine.

could something other than my nozzles be causing a problem where the colors dont match up like this?

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It's got me beat Miguel,


have you contacted Sawgrass maybe they can help.


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