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Old June 3rd, 2007 Jun 3, 2007 11:28:10 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default epson C88+ okay for dye sublimation?

Like I have said in my intro post I know little about tshirt making, but I am really good at graphical art. Also, I have been looking into the new CromaBlast subdye for 100% cotton tshirt printing. I just want to know if the C88+ will hold up and print well. I have read that they need to be replaced each year, but at only 109.00 (to me) that seems cost effeciant. Does anyone own one of these or have personal experience with them?
 
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Default Re: C88+ okay?

I have one and it is fine.
I love the sublimation. The colors are so good.

I also have a brother printer but cannot take it to festivals so that is where the sublimation comes in. I did buy some tranfers and tried one but I am not that happy with it. I did not realize youhave to cut it even on white shirts, I guess I was expecting too much.

But I think you will be happy with the c88
I would like to go bigger eventually, because you can only do 8 1/2x 11 but people do not seem to mind
 
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It's a good cost performence combination, with it's limitations...
 
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What are it's limitations? I know size is an issue, but I dont see my self making to many designs well over 8.5x11. Thanks for the quick relies btw.
 
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limitations on size and durability of the colors once transfered (fade out after washing etc), no solution is perfect and yours must be the best quality/price ratio anyway.
 
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limitations on size and durability of the colors once transfered (fade out after washing etc), no solution is perfect and yours must be the best quality/price ratio anyway.

I am not sure what you mean by fade out after washing
The colors I am getting are great, they pop (example, a childs face with the bluest eyes I have ever seen)

Have not had a problem with fade after washing
 
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Default Re: C88+ okay?

I think he is trying to say that there is a difference between ChromaBlast and subdye, but from what I have read they are the same thing but just a different type of ink.
 
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Do you have to trim with the sawgrass transfer paper? Does it just transer the color or does it transfer a clear film that shows on the sirt outside the image? Thanks...Ross
 
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I just happen to have a chromoblast printed t-shirt on right now. When you print them they have a slight scorched look around the design where the extra paper is. It usually disappears in a little while or always with the first wash. It's barely noticeable though. My colors are bright and durable.

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Amazing Jim, Thanks for that info. I have read that they do leave a film if you do not trim the paper, but that all you have to do is wash it inside out and it goes away.


@Jim, me and my friend are about to go into a business using the chromablast ink for 100% cotton tshirts. Since you know quite a bit about this (asuming you are using it) do you have any suggestions or info that you would think would help me and him in our business revelant to the chromablast ink?
 
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You'll be happy with the chromoblast. Just follow the instructions that come with it, be sure you have the right profile for your printer, and experiment. There is absolutely NO hand at all with these prints. We all have different equipment and preferences. One thing though, how much printing do you plan on doing? I'm sure you've done your research and know the sizes you will use, cost per print, etc. Sawgrass and their dealers give great support for their products. Most have a great guarantee that you will be happy. I have the epson 4800 hybrid system ,only with artainium instead of the sublijet on the sublimation side. Not knowing your financial situation, I hate making recommendations on printers, but, when I compared the cost of cheaper printer plus bulk system, plus printer problems and wear, I concluded there wasn't much cost difference to get the 4800 which is made for commercial work. I think the first recommended maintenance on it is at around 13000 prints. That isn't to say it's right for all circumstances as it really depends on how you approach your business and if you need to turn a profit immediately with it. Keep me posted on what you decide and how long it takes to get to your first million By the way,where are you located?

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Are Chromablast bulk ink systems available for the C88? I didn't see any in a web search. Saw plenty for sublimation inks.

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Ross,
ChromaBlast C88 Starter Deal (Includes Printer, Paper, Ink, and optional Press) - C88 Starter Deal
Coastal is great and be sure to take advantage of their discount to members plus the free shipping.

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You might want to check your pricing on the C88+. I think I just saw one for $65. They are usually way cheaper than $109. And I think a lot of members here have had theirs for more than a year.
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limitations on size and durability of the colors once transfered (fade out after washing etc), no solution is perfect and yours must be the best quality/price ratio anyway.
There is no fading with DyeSub and very little with Chromablast. It sounds like you are thinking of inkjet transfers. They fade after washing.
 
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