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Old November 12th, 2009 Nov 12, 2009 9:08:00 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Ok, so I learned the hard way that Easy Weed Extra cannot be used on umbrellas because of the coating....so, does anyone know how sublimating on white polyester umbrellas would work??? Please, I have orders to fill
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Default Re: sublimation on umbrellas

it would work IF.....IF...you can get the material on a press...flat..no ribs ..or maybe with a teflon pillow...but I don't think this will be easy or profitable..considering the mistake umbrellas you will end up with
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Old November 12th, 2009 Nov 12, 2009 11:05:08 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: sublimation on umbrellas

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We've done sublimation onto umbrellas successfully but as Charles says, its hard to get the surface flat and steady to do the print. If your design is small it's easier. Bottom line is that the technique works but it may cost in time getting it right.
 
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Default Re: sublimation on umbrellas

Thanks everyone for your input. Yes, it does take a while, but I have customer's who like them. The problem is not with the printing/heat press of the umbrella, but with the coating that makes it waterproof. Vinyl will not stay stuck to it once it rains and the sublimation ink, apparently, will not print and stay on the umbrella because of the coating. How did you handle that problem??? Thanks for all of your help
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Old November 13th, 2009 Nov 13, 2009 7:20:33 AM -   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks everyone for your input. Yes, it does take a while, but I have customer's who like them. The problem is not with the printing/heat press of the umbrella, but with the coating that makes it waterproof. Vinyl will not stay stuck to it once it rains and the sublimation ink, apparently, will not print and stay on the umbrella because of the coating. How did you handle that problem??? Thanks for all of your help
How about coating it with a fixative?
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I just read a post from 2007. I found Therma Banner from JSI goes over coated awnings, etc. Going to try it out and see!!
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Default Re: sublimation on umbrellas

sublimation is not a great idea as you need 100% white/light pastel material...coatings will not allow the ink to bond otherwise.
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We used 100% polyester umbrellas which took sublimation process perfectly and are waterproof. We bought the umbrellas from a sublimation supplier so knew they were OK for sublimation before we started.
 
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We used 100% polyester umbrellas which took sublimation process perfectly and are waterproof. We bought the umbrellas from a sublimation supplier so knew they were OK for sublimation before we started.
What supplier did you purchase them from? Thanks!
 
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I would like to know who the supplier is, as well. When I made umbrellas I used Siser Easy Weed; however, it did not stick. I was told it was because of the coating they put on the umbrellas to waterproof them. Has anyone tried using JPPS paper and DuraBrite ink? If so, what were the results?
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sublimationworld.com sells 2 sizes of umbrellas made for sublimation & they also sell sublimatable beach parasols that are like 16' around.
 
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Default Re: sublimation on umbrellas

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I just recently ran across Sublimation World. Have you ever ordered from them? I would just like to know how good they are. Also do their items ship from the USA? I know if I order from Conde I get my orders in 2 to 3 days. Conde also packs their items so well that I usually never have any damaged items. I do also order from other places and I will tray a few things from Sublimation World. Does anyone have any input about that place? Thanks!
 
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We've almost always ordered from Conde' because we've always had great experiences with them but we have ordered a couple things from sublimationworld,they have quite a few things that I haven't seen anywhere else & they were pretty good quality.If I remember correctly they ship from Florida.
 
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Default Re: sublimation on umbrellas

Just an update: I found some colored 100% polyester umbrellas wholesale. I got the colors my customer wanted and printed on the light colored panels. I lowered the temp to 375 degrees F and a medium pressure and the umbrellas came out phenomenal! My Customers are very happy with them. I also did check to make sure they are water proof and they are perfect. I hope this shines some light on anyone else looking to sublimate on to umbrellas.
 
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Default Re: sublimation on umbrellas

Hey Jim could you give the name of your supplier.

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