Hi, Unregistered. | Today's Posts

T-Shirt Forums
User Name
Password

Need to Register?

Forgot Your Password?


Site Navigation







+   T-Shirt Forums > T-Shirt Industry Information > Direct to Garment (DTG) Inkjet Printing > DTG Pretreatment
A section of the forum to discuss DTG Pretreatment machines, techniques, tips and suggestions.

Low quality shirts need more pretreatment: true or false?



View Poll Results: Do bad quality shirts need more pretreatment: true or false?
True (tried it and it worked) 0 0%
False (tried it and it didn't work) 0 0%
Undecided 3 100.00%
Voters: 3. You may not vote on this poll

 
Share This Thread Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old August 15th, 2009 Aug 15, 2009 6:01:40 PM -   #1 (permalink)
QV
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Fan

QV's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 79
Thanks: 10
Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)


Default Low quality shirts need more pretreatment: true or false?

I've got two types of shirts right now that I'm working with: 1) smooth, soft, dense hi-quality cotton shirts 2) homeless-grade Gildan brand shirts.

For type 1, it's super easy to apply pretreatment and after rolling (some of you use brushing) you can clearly see where the solution has been applied.

For type 2, the solution soaks up right away, the fibres are a lot more difficult to flatten and if I don't use more pretreatment the print will usually turn out worse.

In your experience, does the print look better on crappy shirts if you lay down more pretreatment? If not, might save some pretreatment and some time for me and anybody else who's out there wondering.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old August 15th, 2009 Aug 15, 2009 6:35:31 PM -   #2 (permalink)
Moderator
Certified T-Shirt Junkie

sunnydayz's Avatar  - this member was voted Most Helpful Member during our Annual August Member Appreciation Month
 
You can call me: BobbieLee
Member Since: Jun 2007
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,884
Thanks: 1,498
Thanked 1,568 Times in 1,027 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)


Default Re: Low quality shirts need more pretreatment: true or false?

I think of course American Apparel shirts print better then Gildans, and that has to do with them being Ringspun cotton. I am not so sure of the whole less or more pretreatment though. I usually spray mine equally so I have never tried with less. I do love the way the American Apparel prints, as far as the way the ink lays down, but I have never really tried to print with less pretreatment. I guess I figure my pretreatment method works well so why change it I dont think there would so much savings on less pretreatment, as there may be loss of quality of the garment printed.
__________________
Always do right; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest. ~~~Mark Twain
BobbieLee
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old August 16th, 2009 Aug 16, 2009 7:35:19 PM -   #3 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Master

23spiderman's Avatar
 
You can call me: Sean
Member Since: Jun 2008
Posts: 399
Thanks: 59
Thanked 97 Times in 77 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)


Default Re: Low quality shirts need more pretreatment: true or false?

We print (almost exclusively) on Gildan 2000 6.1oz 100% cotton shirts with great results. We've recently started using the Gildan 64000, which is a 4.5oz ringspun shirt for those who want a fashion fit shirt and doesn't mind the higher cost.

I spray an even coat of pretreatment, and then use my rigid squeegee (sp) to lay down the fibers. Once dry, I have a flat surface to print on. When I dry the shirt under the heatpress, I get an even better surface, but many times I can't tell the difference between the two methods.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!
Old August 17th, 2009 Aug 17, 2009 9:59:26 PM -   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
Certified T-Shirt Junkie


zoom_monster's Avatar
 
You can call me: Z
Member Since: Sep 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 1,509
Thanks: 147
Thanked 284 Times in 226 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)


Default Re: Low quality shirts need more pretreatment: true or false?

Quote:
Originally Posted by QV
I've got two types of shirts right now that I'm working with: 1) smooth, soft, dense hi-quality cotton shirts 2) homeless-grade Gildan brand shirts.

For type 1, it's super easy to apply pretreatment and after rolling (some of you use brushing) you can clearly see where the solution has been applied.

For type 2, the solution soaks up right away, the fibres are a lot more difficult to flatten and if I don't use more pretreatment the print will usually turn out worse.

In your experience, does the print look better on crappy shirts if you lay down more pretreatment? If not, might save some pretreatment and some time for me and anybody else who's out there wondering.
My take on this is less mass= less pretreat. You may feel like you need to treat more, but "gobbing" it on leads to wash problems. Sure, you may get bridging of fiber, but if there's no fabric to hold the ink, it's not going to look good after the wash. Fine jersee or rib knit prints best. If you have thick fabric that really drinks the pretreat, give it a mist of plain water first.
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us Tweet about this Post!






This is a discussion about Low quality shirts need more pretreatment: true or false? that was posted in the DTG Pretreatment section of the forums.

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
PreTreatment For All Shirts nabs DTG Brand 9 August 21st, 2011 09:29 AM
What is Your True Cost of Pretreatment, Ink & Labor for Dark Garment Printing DAGuide Direct to Garment (DTG) Inkjet Printing 0 July 29th, 2009 07:42 PM
False starts, re-launches, and renaming: starting a t-shirt business. Solmu Business and Finance 15 July 10th, 2008 10:30 AM
Flexi-Jet Pretreatment on shirts Don276 Belquette 1 March 2nd, 2007 06:52 PM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:54 AM.


Copyright 2004-2012 T-ShirtForums.com. All rights reserved.