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Old January 11th, 2009 Jan 11, 2009 8:07:28 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Hello, New to This business. Have a T-Jet2, haven't gotten started printing yet should get to this week. The usual sorry if this question is remedial or has been covered, I couldn't find this specific question anywhere. I have FastColor (and Pretreat for dark with white underbase) on the way and everything says not to use FastColor with white ink on light shirt. My question is what about printing on light colored (not white) shirt with white color in the graphic but not using a complete white underbase. Can you not use Fastcolor or is this only saying not to use FastColor with white underbase. Just didn't know if there would be a problem with some white in the graphic. May be stupid question that has more to do with the design of the graphic, does DTG not use white ink in graphic? I know some machines didn't have white ink. Just something I didn't understand. Thanks for your time. ~ Kip
 
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Default Re: Using FastColor with white in graphic

FastColor Pretreatment is for use on white or light colored shirts to brighten the print and increase the print washability. It cannot and should not be used with white ink. It does not matter if you are only printing a small amount of white ink or that it's on light colored goods. If you are using white ink anywhere in your graphic you have to use White Pretreatment (or you could also use FastBright Pretreatment for light colored garments with white ink).

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Thank you Harry. I really appreciate all the time you and Margie spent with me this week getting everything ordered and answering questions. We should have everything tomorrow and I'm sure we will stay up late attacking that "learning curve " that we have in front of us.
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We used dark pre-treat on a ash gray shirt with white ink. It worked all right. For anything lighter you might want to do some testing because the dark pre-treat is amber colored.

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Thanks, I guess that is why they have the pretreat for light shirts w/white. Just trying to know what things I have to have and what I can live without starting off.
 
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Teeser, you may want to be careful using the Pretreatment #1 on ash colored shirts in the future. Once the print hits sunlight any area that is pretreated will turn a yellowish color. I would recommend the FastBright instead. Here is what the different pretreats are & their uses are.

FastINK Pretreatment is specifically designed for use on Dark colored garments, allowing for extremely bright Whites and vibrant colors. FastINK Pretreatment should only be used with medium to dark colored garments due to possible discoloration of light shirts when exposed to direct sunlight.
FastBRIGHT Pretreatment works extremely well with light colored garments and images that have an Underbase. Using FastBRIGHT creates vibrant images with rich, deep Blacks and Reds that will not discolor when exposed to direct sunlight.
FastCOLOR reduces cure times while GREATLY increasing the color brilliance and wash ability of your print. This pretreatment is designed for use with images on light colored shirts with NO White ink.

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Even post washing??
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Even after washing! I would not recommend using it on any light colored garments becasue there is no UV protection in that formula.

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Teeser, you may want to be careful using the Pretreatment #1 on ash colored shirts in the future. Once the print hits sunlight any area that is pretreated will turn a yellowish color. I would recommend the FastBright instead. Here is what the different pretreats are & their uses are.

FastINK Pretreatment is specifically designed for use on Dark colored garments, allowing for extremely bright Whites and vibrant colors. FastINK Pretreatment should only be used with medium to dark colored garments due to possible discoloration of light shirts when exposed to direct sunlight.
FastBRIGHT Pretreatment works extremely well with light colored garments and images that have an Underbase. Using FastBRIGHT creates vibrant images with rich, deep Blacks and Reds that will not discolor when exposed to direct sunlight.
FastCOLOR reduces cure times while GREATLY increasing the color brilliance and wash ability of your print. This pretreatment is designed for use with images on light colored shirts with NO White ink.

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May sound stupid but... what exactly would you consider, light, medium & dark. What kinda of hue would be the split from light and dark? like a royal blue is the middle? or more like a pink?
 
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