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[DTG Brand] Print from Photoshop vs Rip Pro



 
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Old March 2nd, 2009 Mar 2, 2009 3:35:58 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Print from Photoshop vs Rip Pro

So i just got my printer and its been setup. charged the inks, performed head cleanings, and beleive i have a good nozzle check print. so Ive been experimenting with printing shirts for the last couple days. so far ive only tried printing on white shirts. im not super computer savvy so its taking a while for me to get the hang of using ths softwares.

my problem is when i print from the rip pro software i cant get bold colors. when i print through photoshop cs3 i can, the greens and blues can really pop. ive tried most of the settings suggested through the manuals and them read it back and forth, cant quite figure out why this is happening. any suggestions? if you need more info from me please ask.

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I can't answer your question directly but I have always printed from Corel. Seems that the graphic software gives you more color control.
 
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Default Re: Print from Photoshop vs Rip Pro

Honestly I have never found it to pop unless I use 2 color passes.
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Old March 5th, 2009 Mar 5, 2009 4:28:45 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Print from Photoshop vs Rip Pro

yeah it helps with 2 passes but no matter what when i try to print through the rip pro software the colors come out so weak. ive just started trying my white ink on black shirts and it wont even print an underbase. im sure its just error on my part, though it seems to me i got all the settings correct, but im still trying to figure it out. ahhh! head hurts.
 
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Have you tried the "Vivid-Darker" setting?
 
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Default Re: Print from Photoshop vs Rip Pro

yeah it does help, thanks for the suggestion. my main concern though is that printing through the rip refuses to print in the same quality as through photo shop. while vivid color may help my prints from photoshop and prints from the rip, it equally helps both so the rip is still not as good as from photoshop. does that make sense? probably not...

i guess the easy solution is to only print from photoshop. but does anyone print regularly through the rip? I assumed, before i got the printer, that it would be the norm.
 
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Default Re: Print from Photoshop vs Rip Pro

If I understand your post, you're trying to get quality graphics out of a program that wasn't designed to create them. My suggestion would be to give up trying to get Rip Pro to give you what you're getting out of PhotoShop. Someone else can chime in here but I never print from Rip Pro except for reprints or production runs.
 
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Default Re: Print from Photoshop vs Rip Pro

I always use rip pro when printing. Have you tried setting it up in photoshop, to let photoshop handle the color management, before it feeds to rip pro. I have found letting photoshop handle the management, helps to get more vivid prints.
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Default Re: Print from Photoshop vs Rip Pro

Yeah I really am not following you here. When printing shirts I do all the designs in photoshop then press command + p (print) and I tweak my setting for white and black shirts in the advanced tab then when I press ok, it auto opens the rip software and does its thing and I press load on the machine.

I hate PC computers so I actually bought an iMac and do a dual boot with windows in order to use the rip software.
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Default Re: Print from Photoshop vs Rip Pro

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If I understand your post, you're trying to get quality graphics out of a program that wasn't designed to create them. My suggestion would be to give up trying to get Rip Pro to give you what you're getting out of PhotoShop. Someone else can chime in here but I never print from Rip Pro except for reprints or production runs.
well, its more of me just trying to find out why the exact same image is printed with less quality if through a different program with the same settings? ill try the suggestions above. and i just found out my manual i was given was out of date! just got the newest one so maybe there are a few gems in it that will help out. already noticed an answer to one of my registration problems that wasnt addressed in my older manual.
 
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Default Re: Print from Photoshop vs Rip Pro

Honestly dont go by anything you got from them. Nothing is up to date and most of it is wrong. Those manuals cost me a good amount of clients. The main one is that the temperatures and times are changed a good amount. As for trying to figure out why they are different it will be next to impossible. Its like asking why does internet explorer display a website completely different from firefox.
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Default Re: Print from Photoshop vs Rip Pro

I believe the manual he was talking about was the RipPro manual. This is kept up to date frequently.

If I am following this correctly, when printing through Photoshop the colors pop more so than creating a print job in RipPro v04 and printing from there.

I may be incorrect, but I think this will always be the case. I have a customer that only prints at 720x720 using 1 pass from Photoshop. His colors pop more so than mine at 720x720 2 pass. He is a graphic artist and knows how to tweak the colors in PS.

Use the program that best suits your needs. PS is going to tweak things a bit because that is what it was designed to do. If the RipPro was able to print as well as PS, it would be well over a $1000 program, which it is not.

Hope a bit of this helps,

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Default Re: Print from Photoshop vs Rip Pro

Any time you install RIP Pro the latest version of the manual installs along with it in the Documents folder under the RIP Pro folder. In regards to curing times and temperatures, the only change made in this regard has occurred when we changed ink sets.
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Honestly dont go by anything you got from them. Nothing is up to date and most of it is wrong. Those manuals cost me a good amount of clients.
In all fairness, Kyle, I checked our tech support records and there are at least 2 instances where it is mentioned that you never attended training and inferred that you never would. You live only about 30 minutes from our offices and the training is free, I'm certain that a fair amount of the issues you have experienced would have been covered in training class. You are still welcome to schedule a training class and take it for free.
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Default Re: Print from Photoshop vs Rip Pro

If you print from RIP Pro (creating the job in the "Create Job" dialog, be sure to choose "RIP Default" for RGB Source Profile and CMYK Source Profile in the "Color" tab. That's the most common cause for the color not being perfect in that print mode.
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