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Old December 8th, 2007 Dec 8, 2007 1:28:07 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Hi All,

This has been the weekend of problems for me.

I'm working on a skull with a red bow on the head. Used the pretreatment, Skull is white and there is a black outline around skull. The black outline was bleeding a little until I cleaned inside the kiosk and now it's great. The bow however is red and still bleeding slightly. I can't get a fine line around the bow, it's bleeding on the pink hoodie shirt.

Anyone know why my red could be bleeding and what I could possibly try?

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Old December 8th, 2007 Dec 8, 2007 2:15:10 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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Are you using white ink for the design? If the white ink is pooling then that might explain the bleeding, you may need to dry the white layer before starting the color layer.

If its no white ink they it might be the polyester content in the hoodie.
 
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Old December 8th, 2007 Dec 8, 2007 2:21:19 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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Hi,

Yes, I am using white for the design. When I printed without the white, it was fine, no bleeding. With the white, bleeding.

Okay, thanks. So, I should just let it sit there and dry?

I'll try that today. That really might be it since I have a white base underneath and then I have a 3% yellow and white over for the skull with black border and BRIGHT red ribbon. The only thing bleeding is the red ribbon.

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yep thats what it sounds like, it if the white is heavy and very wet, it will bleed. How is your coverage, would you be able to lower the density on your white a little and still get good coverage? that might help
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Hi Bobbie,

I haven't tried letting the white dry yet, I'm taking a vacation from work today. = )

But the coverage is very good. Excuse my newbie question but how would I reduce the density on the white?

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I dont let the white dry, I just lighten the density. when you choose the printer and click on advanced you should have three different settings for white density, on there what ever the density is set to, change to the next one up on the list and see if that helps. I think it can also be changed in the Rip program under ink configuration. Let me know if this helps. you can also lessen the white highlight to get less white ink also, it is in the same advanced settings section where the white density setting is.
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I dont let the white dry, I just lighten the density. when you choose the printer and click on advanced you should have three different settings for white density, on there what ever the density is set to, change to the next one up on the list and see if that helps. I think it can also be changed in the Rip program under ink configuration. Let me know if this helps. you can also lessen the white highlight to get less white ink also, it is in the same advanced settings section where the white density setting is.

THanks everyone for your reply. I tested everything except getting a 100% cotton hoodie which I don't have in stock yet. My hoodies are still bleeding slightly with the red ink. I tried reducing the density, waiting to print the color, putting a board to level platen, nothing seemed to work but they really helped other projects.... THANK YOU!!!

Someone told me it may be the Jerzeez Hoodies I'm using... probably so. Never again will I purchase these. They are good for using with transfers and with the GX24 though. = )

Question: If I'm printing a logo that's completely white, do I need to do two layers... one more of a base white and then the real coat?

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Default Re: Colors bleeding

As far as printing another layer of white with a logo, it depends on your coverage. Does it look good with one layer or do you think it would be better with a 2nd layer. As long as you are getting good coverage with one I would not worry about two.

Also I have found the hoodies that work best are the ones with 100%cotton face. It doesnt matter if there is poly in them as long as they have the 100%cotton face on them. I agree that if the hoodies you are useing dont have the cotton face on them it could be your problem as the dtg inks dont stick well to poly so it might be rolling off the fibers. Hope this helps
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As far as printing another layer of white with a logo, it depends on your coverage. Does it look good with one layer or do you think it would be better with a 2nd layer. As long as you are getting good coverage with one I would not worry about two.

Also I have found the hoodies that work best are the ones with 100%cotton face. It doesnt matter if there is poly in them as long as they have the 100%cotton face on them. I agree that if the hoodies you are useing dont have the cotton face on them it could be your problem as the dtg inks dont stick well to poly so it might be rolling off the fibers. Hope this helps
Hi Bobbie,

You have to excuse me I'm so new to this and this is going to sound stupid but since I'm just using white, does white need a base coat like a color need? That's basically my question or can I just start with a white layer after pre-treatment?
If this sounds completely crazy, forgive me!! = )
 
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You can just do a white layer after pretreatment as long as the coverage is good that is all you need.
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Default Re: Colors bleeding

i had a bleeding problem when i mixed red and yellow prints. i simply reduced the max ink layed down (on a tjet2) and reduced the resolution to photo and 360dpi in 2 passes instead of one 720dpi pass. it took one more pass so slightly longer, but it worked. no more bleeding.
 
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Default Re: Colors bleeding

on light shirts I use fastcolor, it eliminates bleeding and makes the prints look all around awesome.
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