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Old January 18th, 2009 Jan 18, 2009 10:57:53 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Hi and Sorry for my bad english

I bought a Azon Micro Tex white and have many problems with it.

1.) If i printed many shirts with one RIP software (Azon RIP 1.1) than printed the printer in 50% of the color of shirts about 1cm away from the white ink.
If I install the Software by every shirt again everything is fine.

2.) If I wash the shirts then the colours are almost washed out.

my settings:
I treat the shirt with the precoater.
then I press the shirt by 335 degree 10 seconds
I print white and then the colours
then I press the shirt by 335 degree 120 seconds.

I wash it by 104 degree with a standard detergent.

What I doin wrong???

I hope someone understands my English or is there someone who can also speak German?

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Old January 18th, 2009 Jan 18, 2009 11:14:06 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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sounds like issue of pretreatment
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Old January 18th, 2009 Jan 18, 2009 11:14:32 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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not enough most likely
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Old January 18th, 2009 Jan 18, 2009 11:36:51 AM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Newbe with many problems

hmmm thanks but i think i have enough precoating on the shirt.

white already remains on the shirt (not completely but acceptable) only the colours are washed out.
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yikes thats weird, than again i never heard of that printer, is it from china or something
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It must be the same as the DTG Printer. It looks amost the same.
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Yea it does, what inks are you using?
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i use the original Azon waterbased ink for piezo printer
 
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Saw there site, seem like they make alot of products..
Seams like ink issue because your heat settings seem fine, maybe jack up amount of color ink that is printed over the white?
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Default Re: Newbe with many problems

The print looks like wonderful after pressing.

The printer must be the same. Our settings should be ok.

Only the printing is washed out after the first wash.
 
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heat longer...

set heat to 375 hover heat press for 60 sec and press for 2 minutes

I should of noticed right off bat you aren't curing long enough
Curing is essential I know on my machine it is for 3 minutes atleast

cure longer at higher temp and should make a world of difference
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Default Re: Newbe with many problems

I'll try - thank you very much.
I'll give feedback as soon as possible.

But one last question I've for today:
How strong should be the pressure of the heat press?
I press on level 3 - this should be light pressure.
Is this enough?

And (really the last :-)):
In Germany we can't get a useful RIP Software.
Maybe you can get a look at this and tell me, if the original DTG RIP Software is the same or different?
 
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Not to familiar with DTG rip to be honest : (

Pressure of press being light should be fine : )

Not heating a shirt long enough or at a high enough pressure will not cure garment properly
I m sure people by tomorrow will give you more info than i have, meanwhile have fun with new toy and remember to heat it up
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Thank you again.

I hope it will work.
 
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Default Re: Newbe with many problems

TeCo,

From your picture it appears that the Azon Micro Tex printer is a DTG Kiosk printer that Azon is selling under its own name. If you want to get the similar RIP software that DTG uses on the Kiosk you should contact Mark, who frequently posts on this forum as DAGuide, and inquire about MultiRip:
MultiRIP GP Direct-to-Garment Printing Software for dtg Printers - Epson Digital Printers
You can also use the FastArtist/FastRIP software but that it only sold to owners of the Fast T-Jet printers.

As for your ink washing out I have several suggestions.
Make sure you are using plain parchment paper when drying your pretreatment and silicone coated paper when drying the ink.
Try drying your prints at 330 degrees F (166 C) for 3 minutes.
Try spraying on a little less pretreatment. Too much pretreatment will make your print look brighter but greatly decrease the washability.

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