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NEW Pretreatment Machine that is ACTUALLY OUT...not coming soon.
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You also should consider the drainage and exhaust system very carefully. Just because it is enclosed does not mean all that mess just disappears, it has to go somewhere. The fumes will still creep out if there is not a proper exhaust system.
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We don't have an exhaust in our shop. We have a pre-treatment room setup with filters in the ceiling. The only place we've found it creeping out is on the floor where people track it out by shoes.
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It is my understanding that there is a large, built-in waste tank on the machine that gets the overspray and water used for cleaning. Not sure exactly about the fumes... but I don't think that is a huge problem with pretreating as Adam mentioned.
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Humm, I don't know if it's the video, but, doesn't the pretreatment look uneven?
I agree, two nozzles spraying, heavy at both ends, creating two paths.
Don-SWF,
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I think that $1500 would be palatable to most folks, maybe even $2000, but above that is really starting to push the cost/benefit barrier.
I also agree with Don.
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DAGuide,
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1. How long does it take for you (or an employee) to pretreat a shirt the manual way versus using a machine? Better yet, can someone else even do the process of pretreating a shirt correctly?
I would accept a longer time for the process, if I get consistency from the machine. I also want “anybody” to be able to use the machine. Not just the employee who “has that touch”. You know, the guy who’s out sick today.... So it needs to have a short learning curve.
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2. How much space do you have in your shop? Do you have enough room to pretreat shirts safely away from the printer or do you have to go outside to do it?
Exactly, not something I want to try to do in 110-122 degrees in Arizona.
Or during the Monsoons we get every year. The system also needs to be portable for different venues.
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3. How many shirts (probably have to do # out of 100) are not pretreated enough or done improperly and you don't know until after you print on it?
Again, as you said repeatable consistency is king!
Again, I don’t want, nor will I have the option at venues, to do this outside. So I would also need the longest and widest platen possible for all over prints.
Just my two pesos,
Don
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Re: NEW Pretreatment Machine that is ACTUALLY OUT...not coming soon.
I bought this machine. Several have been delivered already, which is a plus, and mine is scheduled for delivery this week. I bought it for several reasons.
1. You can use it in the same room as the printer. A huge advantage for space. It can also be used in a mobile setup, which would allow easier PTing of shirts than doing it outside at a fair or market.
2. We do a high volume of shirts and while the ROI may take a couple of years, for me there is a convenience factor that is hard to put a price on.
3. Anybody can run it. No special care is needed.
4. It does not (at least I hope ) call in sick.
5. As Mark pointed out, it is also difficult to value out the cost benefit of repeatability.
6. It is much faster than doing it by hand. An employee can actually PT a few shirts while waiting on one shirt to finish printing.
7. Don, the actual cost of PT per shirt goes down. According to Harry, in his testing this method actually uses LESS, not MORE, than PTing by hand.
Of course all of this is based on taking Harry at his word. In all of my dealings with Harry (I have been a customer since I bought my original Tjet over 3 years ago), his word has always been good. I will have extensive testing result for everyone next week.
The look of unevenness is caused by the lighting and reflections, just like some pics of shirts make them look uneven or pitted. Harry assured me when I asked him about this, that the shirt on the video had a very even PT.
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Don, the actual cost of PT per shirt goes down. According to Harry, in his testing this method actually uses LESS, not MORE, than PTing by hand.
Of course all of this is based on taking Harry at his word. In all of my dealings with Harry (I have been a customer since I bought my original Tjet over 3 years ago), his word has always been good. I will have extensive testing result for everyone next week.
Good to hear. I'm not questioning Harry's integrity at all. My observation was based on seeing a few different units run and then sure seemed to waste a lot.
Zilla - If there is anyone to test this it would be you.
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Originally Posted by Rodney
I thought Bobbielee already posted that it was about $4000?
That was the price Harry qouted me when he was in production of the machine. It may be a bit different now that it is finished. I havent talked to him since he started shipping it
Mark I am really excited to hear your feedback once you start using it I for one am really looking forward to there being a good pretreatment machine out there, and one I can put in the same room as my printer. That was one of the nice things Harry told me while he was building it, and it would save me time from having to run back and forth from different rooms. I also like that I wont have overspray everywhere where I currently do my pretreatment. That to me makes it more then worth the investment.
I also like the fact that it has a built in line for distilled water to flush the system with. It really sounds like he covered all the basis with this one.
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