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Old May 13th, 2008 May 13, 2008 12:59:01 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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I am printing black text on some pink shirts for an order and for some reason it is bleeding/blurring around the edges and looks awful. Has anyone any suggestions as to what is happening here? or if there any settings I need to make over and above a 1 pixel choke. I have previously printed black on to pink with no problem.

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What printer are you using and what kind of shirt? Does it have polyester in it?
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Might want to also see if dropping the resolution will help as well. You might be printing too much ink for that specific type of fabric.
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I am printing black text on some pink shirts for an order and for some reason it is bleeding/blurring around the edges and looks awful. Has anyone any suggestions as to what is happening here? or if there any settings I need to make over and above a 1 pixel choke. I have previously printed black on to pink with no problem.

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My first thought is the print head is too far from the garment.
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I am using the HM-1.
The white is going on as 1440x1440 and the black at 1440x720 (the default settings) and am using 100% JHK cotton shirts. Need to sort out a.s.a.p. as I want to deliver the order in 48 hours and have enough pink shirts to fulfill it.
The print head is at he 'normal' height.
 
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I would see if you can go up a little with your platen without the gap making it go down, I have the hm1 also and I find that I have to get as close up with the platen as I can or I will get an overspray look. What layer is your white set at in your advanced setting ? if it is heavy try doing a medium density white layer. It does sound like maybe you have too much ink laying down. If your layer is too heavy it will cause bleeding, also does your pretreatment look ok? sometimes if it is not pretreated correctly the ink wont lay down nice and sharp. Is there any way you can post a pic so we can see what it looks like? sometimes its easier to figure out what is wrong if we are able to see it.
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Default Re: Bleeding hell!!

is your platen too low? Ive done this....lowered the platen for a sweatshirt or something very thick, then forgotten to bring the platen back up.

other things that has caused blurring for me.....damp clothing or too much ink volume for fine lettering.
 
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Try less white underbase, less colour on top.
 
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Try using - Generate Pure Blacks - this will use only "black" for black and not create a composite which uses all 4 process colors and a lot more ink

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Default Re: Bleeding hell!!

Tried with less ink but still bleeding and then I thought why do I need a white base for a pastel pink shirt and lo and behold I didn't!
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Hello again!
Don, for future reference can you please tell me where I can find the 'generate pure black' option that you mentioned?

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The generate pure black should be in your advanced printer settings Ok that is the one thing I didnt ask, what color pink you were printing on. I assumed because you were printing with a white underbase that you were printing on a darker pink. That will teach me about assuming. The rule of thumb is that anytime the ink is darker than the shirt you should not need a white underbase, although some colors do not mix well with the color of the shirt such as if you were to print pink ink on blue it will look kinda purple. But black as long as the garment is lighter you dont need a underbase.
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Colin,

You may be using the Print Pro software as opposed to the RIP Pro that we use in the States. If you are I am not certain that they have that feature in the software.
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Don

You are spot on I am using the UK version and am unable to locate such a setting.

I didn't realise that the software in the States was a differet version, i'm sure there is a good reason why?



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The US market seems to prefer a hot folder type RIP like RIP Pro while the tastes of the European and Asian markets was more for a stand alone RIP. Secondarily, RIP Pro is written in the US by a company less than 3 hours form our offices which we feel gives us more direct feedback and response - Print Pro is written in India.
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