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Old May 31st, 2008 May 31, 2008 8:51:01 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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should i register my company as a sole proprietor, corporation, or LLC.


i live in new jersey and would mostly be selling my shirts online.


would a sole proprietor limit me to only doing business in NJ?


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Old May 31st, 2008 May 31, 2008 8:55:52 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: what to register my company as?

If I were you I would register your company as a sole proprietorship. You can later "upgrade" when or if your company grows.
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Old May 31st, 2008 May 31, 2008 9:05:53 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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If you are the only owner then you register as a sole proprietor. If you have a partner then you register that way. It does not matter where you do business as to how you register. There are tax advantages to being incorporated, but not until you grow to a certain size. ...... JB
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Old May 31st, 2008 May 31, 2008 10:00:17 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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I would register as a LLC. I did. You can register as a sole proprietorship LLC. It's great for tax benefits. All your operating expenses minus profit is a tax write. As a LLC it also puts you at a 15% tax bracket vice a 28% which most people are (single). Go in incorporated. It doesn't hurt.
 
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Default Re: what to register my company as?

What was the cost of forming your LLC?
 
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Default Re: what to register my company as?

Frank, here is a good thread with folks discussing this pros and cons of this exact subject. I've read this thread and it brings up very good and valid points all around on SP.

Jessie, how much and how to register is also discussed in this thread. Online is cheaper. Please see the thread.

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I am based out of Florida. I paid $130.00 for the LLC on sunbiz.org. I also paid $50.00 for the fictious name.
 
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I am based out of Florida. I paid $130.00 for the LLC. And it's a tax write off for your corporation. Because once your corporated any of your operating expenses are written off towards your inc.
 
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Not to mention, if registering as an LLC it is a Limited Liability Corporation so if you were to get sued or file bankruptcy the only thing that they can go after is your companies assets and not your personal assets. Its kind of a safety net.
 
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That is true, when you incoprorate. Your LLC is it's own entity Also, all your corporation expenses minus you corporations profits is what's taxable
 
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Being a sole proprietor, business operating expenses are also written off. As far as not being sued, I was under the same impression... until it was explained to me another way. That info is in the link. PS: I am a SP. I decided to skip the LLC, bc I wouldn't get what I truly wanted, being a one person operation.

Also, the OP hasn't said which kind of corp.
 
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Default Re: what to register my company as?

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What was the cost of forming your LLC?
You can check your Secretary of State for the fees. Every state has different fees. Some states even have online filing.
 
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The main thing about a LLC that is better than a sole propreitoship. As a LLC it gives your more tax advantages which helps you get more of your money back than sole. When your incorprated. It puts you in 15% tax bracket vice sole. You don"t need to be partnered with two or three persons. There is a such thing as sole LLC. If your thinking big about your business, like I am. Then go LLC.
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should i register my company as a sole proprietor, corporation, or LLC.


i live in new jersey and would mostly be selling my shirts online.


would a sole proprietor limit me to only doing business in NJ?


thanks for the help guys!
As helpful as all of our advice is meant to be, if you really want to know and understand what set up is best for you, you need to find out from someone who can explain the pros and cons in your state.

I was from Jersey, now live in PA. My brother in law is in Jersey and has his own biz, too, no employees. We compare notes, and doing biz in Jersey is different from doing biz in PA. Point is, it's not a one size fits all, and how you set up now will affect you for a long time.

If you really want to make an informed decision - I would suggest you contact your local Small Business Development Center.

I have worked with my local SBDC office for nearly two years now, and they have been an invaluable FREE resource. A wealth of information, cutting through tons of research and reading for me, eliminating the clutter and getting me right to the answers, so I can BE in business, rather than researching how to GET into business.

It was a simple as making a doctor's appointment. You call, get an appointment, show up, and the advisor and you discuss Your Business. They don't leave you after you are set up either. They help you grow your business after you are set up.

When I say help, I mean advice, contacts to resourcefull people for marketing, contacts for growing your biz, and they have access to alot of information regarding commerce and industry that they willing share with you to help expand your growth opportunities.

I sat down with my advisor and he explained what each of the set ups were about, the pros/cons, how they applied to my exact business (not t-shirts, other biz).

This is your tax payer dollars at work, so you might as well get something out of your dollars. They are a free resource to small biz's. Everyone talks about how much everything costs, yet here is an invaluable resource that is free, just waiting to help you establish and grow your business. Here's the link if you are interested:
Small Business Administration - sbdc_locator_map


I would not advise you call an accountant too much, though they can be helpful. I found they tried to upsell me into higher set ups that cost more to establish because it was a better fee for them to collect. I came to trust and rely on the SBDC because they do not lie to me. There is no alterior motive. They are not being paid by me. They get their funding each year through the government, and they earn their funding by having a successful track record helping small biz's.

Okay, I'm done singing the praises of the SBDC, but with a white knight like that at my disposal, it's really hard to not shout it from the top of a mountain. They help with everything you need to know and do when setting up and growing a biz, yet no one seems to know they are there. So now you do.
 
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Hello I need some help and see you have knowledge on the situation. I am a new business (in the midst of purchasing all my equipment) to do a t-shirt line. Someone suggested to me I become Incorporated so I paid the $ and now I have an S corporation. The person that helped me helped me get that and then bailed, now I have unfinished paperwork and I dont even know where to go next. What are the requirenments to be/keep this incorporation status? Or should I get out of it. Really have no understanding of the situation. Im dumb in that aspect. "IM JUST AN ARTIST" Feel I got myself into something I do not understand. If you can shed some light on the situation that would be great. Thanks so much in advance...
 
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