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Old January 19th, 2008 Jan 19, 2008 7:30:37 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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That is right. The President said the two sweetest words a small business owner can hear....."Economic Stimulus"

Essentially, the Federal Government will give you money, either before or after the fact, to purchase capital equipment.

Look for the following
  • Unrestricted Tax Credits: This is a dollar for dollar reduction of your tax liability. Much better than a deduction because the government pays for the purchase of your equipment. The money that you would have paid in taxes now goes into your shop to earn more money. You can even spend more than your tax liability and get a refund on the overage.
  • Restricted Tax Credits: Like the former, this one is dollar for dollar but you cannot get a refund for going over your tax liability.
  • Accelerated Depreciation: Think Section 179. Look for bonus percents from 20% to 50%. This may come in two forms. A general form for everyone and 'Enterprise Zone' bonuses for highly impacted areas like The Peoples Republic of California.
Now, because the government is in a rush to do this, it is certain there will be two additional aspects to this bill.
  1. There will be a ton of pork in it as Congress slips in all kinds of extras
  2. There will be unintended consequences, aka loopholes. This is where a good tax accountant comes in.
Good luck and watch the news for the passage and signing of your government relieve for small business package soon.
 
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Old January 19th, 2008 Jan 19, 2008 7:34:52 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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Essentially, the Federal Government will give you money, either before or after the fact, to purchase capital equipment.
And by "Federal Government" you mean our grandchildren, great-grandchildren, etc. It's not like the federal government has a surplus of money to hand out.

I haven't heard anyone mention corresponding budget cuts.
 
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Old January 19th, 2008 Jan 19, 2008 7:39:48 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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And by "Federal Government" you mean our grandchildren, great-grandchildren, etc. It's not like the federal government has a surplus of money to hand out.
No, I mean my money that I have been handing over year after year.
 
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No, I mean my money that I have been handing over year after year.
I'm all for tax cuts, but if they are done without budget cuts, it's not really a cut, it's just deferred taxation.
 
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Fred, are you refering to the $800 check per person? That would be an excellent use of the money, perfect!
 
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President Bush yesterday said he wants "direct and rapid" tax relief for individuals and tax incentives for businesses "to make major investments in their enterprises this year."


Bush calls for quick, temporary tax relief to spur economy - CNN.com
 
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Old January 23rd, 2008 Jan 23, 2008 2:50:53 PM -   #7 (permalink)
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The first word in the news is now doubling of the section 179 accelerated depreciation to $250,000 for 2008.
 
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Old January 23rd, 2008 Jan 23, 2008 3:46:02 PM -   #8 (permalink)
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That is right. The President said the two sweetest words a small business owner can hear....."Economic Stimulus"

Essentially, the Federal Government will give you money, either before or after the fact, to purchase capital equipment.

Look for the following
  • Unrestricted Tax Credits: This is a dollar for dollar reduction of your tax liability. Much better than a deduction because the government pays for the purchase of your equipment. The money that you would have paid in taxes now goes into your shop to earn more money. You can even spend more than your tax liability and get a refund on the overage.
  • Restricted Tax Credits: Like the former, this one is dollar for dollar but you cannot get a refund for going over your tax liability.
  • Accelerated Depreciation: Think Section 179. Look for bonus percents from 20% to 50%. This may come in two forms. A general form for everyone and 'Enterprise Zone' bonuses for highly impacted areas like The Peoples Republic of California.
Now, because the government is in a rush to do this, it is certain there will be two additional aspects to this bill.
  1. There will be a ton of pork in it as Congress slips in all kinds of extras
  2. There will be unintended consequences, aka loopholes. This is where a good tax accountant comes in.
Good luck and watch the news for the passage and signing of your government relieve for small business package soon.
I'm know you can't give me tax advice, but let me see if I can understand what you're saying.

There are currently unrestricted tax credits in place for buying new equipment?

So if I bought a DTG this year (2008), I could take it off of my tax liability in 2008 (or 2007)?

If this is the case, I need to talk to my accountant lady I'm all for reducing my tax liability.
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Not quite Rodney. I am spelling out the options that the government has for business. They are not going to send checks to businesses. I do not hold out hope for tax credits, but you never know. This will be hastily put together and is destined to create advantageous loopholes for 2008.
 
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I know it is good news, but I am such schlep at understanding these things.
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LOL ... marry a tax pro ... I did, and survived two audits ...
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Old January 24th, 2008 Jan 24, 2008 2:14:57 PM -   #12 (permalink)
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Default Re: The US government is getting ready to pay for your next piece of equipment

Here is an update
  • People (phaseout starts at 75K for single and 150K for married)
    • Single gets $600
    • Married gets $1200
    • $300 per head on kids
  • Business
    • 50% bonus writeoff on capital purchases (probably section 179 depreciation)
  • Other
    • Conforming loans in California raised to $725K which will qualify for lower rates, right now 1% lower, below 6% as of this week
Of course the news reports don't have the fine details. If the business deduction is a tax credit then jump on it. You will be taking money that you would already pay in taxes and shift them to equipment purchases. If it is a 50% bonus on accelerated depreciation, then unless you already are above the max of $125K + COLA then it is meaningless.
 
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You have to have money to buy equipment first in order to expense it later.
I just don't have any money to buy anything right now. Hard times are already upon some of us. Maybe I can borrow money from my brother-in-law?
 
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Here is an update
  • People (phaseout starts at 75K for single and 150K for married)
    • Single gets $600
    • Married gets $1200
    • $300 per head on kids
I knew I had four kids for some reason!! I needed a second heat press!!

My wife keeps telling me it was a mutual decision but I still claim I was lured into it.
 
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No, I mean my money that I have been handing over year after year.
thats right bink! please keep us posted so we don't miss out
 
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