Saw a post on another forum that Brother has officially announced the price of their GT782 at $54,995.00. No other info on ink costs, or delivery, was mentioned.
ink cost may be a bit more but what are we talking about? 20 cent more to do a shirt on average....
I have had my machine for almost 3 month, have over 4 thous prints with zero issue, colors always spot on, and zero maintenance and I mean Zero .. machine does everything for you.
You also gotta consider it faster than most Epson based machines, meaning you can have a more productive day, and I believe time is money.. so lets say I do 35 shirts an hour at 20 cents more ink cost = $6 but I save 20 minutes of time compared to another machine, an shop hourly price is $60 than I make more of a profit
ink cost may be a bit more but what are we talking about? 20 cent more to do a shirt on average....
I have had my machine for almost 3 month, have over 4 thous prints with zero issue, colors always spot on, and zero maintenance and I mean Zero .. machine does everything for you.
You also gotta consider it faster than most Epson based machines, meaning you can have a more productive day, and I believe time is money.. so lets say I do 35 shirts an hour at 20 cents more ink cost = $6 but I save 20 minutes of time compared to another machine, an shop hourly price is $60 than I make more of a profit
Screen printers usually shy away from DTG for 2 reasons. Production speeds and cost of inks. Brother has a track record for good quality printers, but their inks are high. So for their inks to be more than double what everyone else is charging, it's not a very good sell for the screen printing community.
Obviously Brother isn't targeting the screen printers, but in general, I believe the industry should. In order to do that, you have to get production speeds up and ink costs down. It appears that Brother is working in reverse, at least for ink costs.
Not to mention, people like Justin Walker who is more of a contract printer, it's nearly impossible to sell a shirt with those kinds of costs in ink alone. Retail, no problem, you either mark it up more to compensate, or you eat the difference and make less. But as competitive as tshirt embellishment is these days, it's hard to compete with a machine that has ink at more than double the costs of other DTG. Of course this is my opinion and it won't stop people from using their own judgments and purchasing this machine.
In the end, if your business structure can justify those kinds of prices, then it could be a good fit. IMO, it won't for most.
I do contract printing 98 percent of time as well, and 80 percent of jobs is about 70 cent ink cost but most impiortant thing for me is time it take me to print which is just the click of a button and no adjustments.
No cleaning heads every day, no checking for clogs, child play to keep it up
I do contract printing 98 percent of time as well, and 80 percent of jobs is about 70 cent ink cost but most impiortant thing for me is time it take me to print which is just the click of a button and no adjustments.
No cleaning heads every day, no checking for clogs, child play to keep it up
Sorry, I was more referring to the new white ink printer.
ohhh.... my bad, that is sorta different story, I think all together on white ink thing that unless you got a Kornit, any other machine is a waste to do dark's on contract bases.
Even Dupount inks cost around $3 a shirt plus all prep work, extra time to cure ect.
so if someone had to for for instance 500 shirts fullcolor, it will be a long week
My biggest complaint with printing white ink on dtg machines is cost. It's good for small runs and retail, but contract printing or even a little large runs aren't feasible.
Do not under estimate Brother because they are doing a cost comparison and will very soon make the necessary changes to stay competative, but for now they will find a niche market and work with them. In the meantime you will continue to see more Epson based printers priced competative and that print faster than the current models. Also, keep in mind that there is more to a printer than the printer and ink cost to make it a profitable system. I would love to say more but have to save it for SGIA where we all introduce the next model with hope's to being the first. I honestly think SGIA will be very interesting and well worth the wait.
Do not under estimate Brother because they are doing a cost comparison and will very soon make the necessary changes to stay competative
Actually very true
As for the kornits, I have spoken to a few people who will tell you actually spend more on ink than you may be led to believe. And if the kornit was as solid as people claim than why have 3 out of 4 people on this forum who had 1 give it back?
I believe if you pay a little bit more for ink but have a more reliable machine than it makes a world of a difference. Do i agree with brother inks?,,, NO but after doing a live demo with Lawrence and he showed me the ink cost for my garments and how the software driver works to reduce ink cost on my own, I felt like their was a good enough reason to consider the machine especially if it turns out to be as reliable as the 541. Even though we placed our deposit for one we still our considering other machines as overall cost makes a difference.
The major problem I have with epson converted machines is that it still is a paper printer made to print shirts so because of this there's ALWAYS an issue of some type. It horrifies me when people pay so much and have to deal with Dampers, Elevation ink heights to get consistant flow, Starvation or mother boards blow within 6 month, or printhead replacements as they are so easily damaged. Then the companies want you to do your own repairs.
Not to mention there pretty slow but no matter how fast your machine is you can't escape the 3 min cure time so how fast are you really.
(Brother has 35sec and washed veeeery well)
Despite that I believe if you are willing to go threw the issues than you have my blessings. Personally we are on the fence at the moment and are weighing are options still because people like Belquette , DTG and Equipmentzone definitely are trying and are pretty creative and our worth considering.
Brother Announces Price of GT 782 
