[Flexi-Jet] No more White ink to DuPont white users
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[Flexi-Jet] No more White ink to DuPont white users
Kornit hired regal team Howrey LLP. and they send us the letter which address they will practice their right. Well ~ anything to say?
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Method for image printing on textile
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Last edited by allamerican; December 4th, 2008 at 03:42 PM.
what did the letter state on it? I wonder if the process is considered the same with the white ink in one print-head as opposed to the method they patented that works with separate print-heads.
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I am not a lawyer but I think they are saying nobody can print white ink as a under layer before print color on top in digital way.
This means all dark garment printers are violating their patent include mfgs. There will be no dark shirts digital printer unless mfgs are agree to pay the royalty to Kornit.
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Its interesting that they are now doing this. I was aware of their patent, but they had never tried to enforce it. I wonder if it has anything to do with Brother producing a more commercial white printer that might be a little more competitive with the kornit.
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Ok I was just reading Kornits patent, and on it, it states on number 10 of their article that it must have one white print head and at least one color print head for the process. So if the epson based printers have only one printhead that prints both, I wonder if it would be seen as the same process. Here is a link to the patent Method for image printing on a dark ... - Google Patents. I think this might have something to do with Brother coming out with a new commercial machine, with similar technology to the Kornit. since the brother has 2 printheads, one for white and one for color, it seems it might threaten Kornit since brothers price is much lower then theirs. This is only my opinion and thoughts though
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That is true, the eclipse is setup to run that way. I wonder on the Kornit and the Brother if they are the exact same printheads that run both the white and CMYK. hmm this is interesting.
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I don't think that is the case... because then why would Peter get a Cease & Desist letter (or something similar). He has only sold Epson based printers.
I think if peter recieved the letter, probably the other manufactures of machines will too. But in their patent it clearly states it must have one white ink printhead and one or several color printheads. So I am wondering if the fact that most machines have only one printhead that prints both, whether that would make a difference. The patent seems pretty specific in that area.
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Tell me about it. Why me? What did I do anything wrong?
I hate this kind of BS. I hope Brother received same letter as me. Let them fight. I will be a watcher with beer in my hand and yours too.
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Does DDM plan to stop sale of printers with a white ink layer in response to the letter?
Could that mean used machines with white ink options bring a premium price?
It is easy to get wholesale suppliers of this ink who don't even care if we paint our house with it so world wide this is a hard law to enforce even if they have rights ,considering good dtg printers with seperate printheads come out of many other countries not just USA,at a fraction of the price of KORNIT or Brother.It is impossible to go to every residence in the world that prints blackT's .I think you are all panicking over something that can not be controlled due to the vastness of the world and the vast amount of happy to supply on line wholesalers of this ink.Kornit can not chase up, everyone in the world buying from suppliers who are happy to on sell wholesale.I own a licence patient for my name but I can not control its use all over the world even if I have a piece of legal paper to say I can.It only covers me for direct copywright only if I can catch them.An impossible task to control it all.So why are we even discussing this ,it is called competition ,and eventually in this world we all get copyied in the end to a certain degree,but to control who uses an ink and how is quiet extrodinary to even try.I might buy a heap of this nice ink for all sorts of uses how will they police, exactly what I do with it.My supplier really only cares about the sale.Once I purchase my ink and I own it as my property I can paint my car with it ,if I wish to ,like to see someone try and stop me.LOL.The real reason they are trying to enforce silly rules is because the clever asia countrys have made DTG printers just as good or better at a fraction of the cost to make theirs but they are different enough to not be a copy as I own one and am very happy with it.I say stop worrying , buy your ink from a supplier of your choice who will supply what brand of in you like and just print your own art as copyright is more strict on plagorisim and brands being copied.Ink is ink and has many uses ,DU PONT would loose so many sales if they let one company dictate its use,for thier printers only, CALLED COMMERSIAL SUICIDE,if they can not sell as they wish, .Again I say don't know why its even a conversation ,its just so dumb.Sorry, for going on a bit, I am very opinionated.Cheers,STRAIGHT EDGE SOCIETY AUSTRALIA.
No more White ink to DuPont white users? 
