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[Flexi-Jet] No more White ink to DuPont white users



 
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Old December 4th, 2008 Dec 4, 2008 9:20:08 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default No more White ink to DuPont white users?

Kornit hired regal team Howrey LLP. and they send us the letter which address they will practice their right. Well ~ anything to say?
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Old December 4th, 2008 Dec 4, 2008 9:38:30 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: No more White ink to DuPont white users

Hi Peter,

what did the letter state on it? I wonder if the process is considered the same with the white ink in one print-head as opposed to the method they patented that works with separate print-heads.

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Old December 4th, 2008 Dec 4, 2008 10:39:09 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: No more White ink to DuPont white users

I am not a lawyer but I think they are saying nobody can print white ink as a under layer before print color on top in digital way.
This means all dark garment printers are violating their patent include mfgs. There will be no dark shirts digital printer unless mfgs are agree to pay the royalty to Kornit.
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Default Re: No more White ink to DuPont white users

Its interesting that they are now doing this. I was aware of their patent, but they had never tried to enforce it. I wonder if it has anything to do with Brother producing a more commercial white printer that might be a little more competitive with the kornit.
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Old December 4th, 2008 Dec 4, 2008 12:14:51 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: No more White ink to DuPont white users

Ok I was just reading Kornits patent, and on it, it states on number 10 of their article that it must have one white print head and at least one color print head for the process. So if the epson based printers have only one printhead that prints both, I wonder if it would be seen as the same process. Here is a link to the patent Method for image printing on a dark ... - Google Patents. I think this might have something to do with Brother coming out with a new commercial machine, with similar technology to the Kornit. since the brother has 2 printheads, one for white and one for color, it seems it might threaten Kornit since brothers price is much lower then theirs. This is only my opinion and thoughts though
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Default Re: No more White ink to DuPont white users

The DTG eclipse has a white printhead and a colour printhead.
 
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That is true, the eclipse is setup to run that way. I wonder on the Kornit and the Brother if they are the exact same printheads that run both the white and CMYK. hmm this is interesting.
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Default Re: No more White ink to DuPont white users

I don't think that is the case... because then why would Peter get a Cease & Desist letter (or something similar). He has only sold Epson based printers.
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Default Re: No more White ink to DuPont white users

I think if peter recieved the letter, probably the other manufactures of machines will too. But in their patent it clearly states it must have one white ink printhead and one or several color printheads. So I am wondering if the fact that most machines have only one printhead that prints both, whether that would make a difference. The patent seems pretty specific in that area.
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Default Re: No more White ink to DuPont white users

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IHe has only sold Epson based printers.
Tell me about it. Why me? What did I do anything wrong?
I hate this kind of BS. I hope Brother received same letter as me. Let them fight. I will be a watcher with beer in my hand and yours too.
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Default Re: No more White ink to DuPont white users

This could be bad news for most of the DTG industry that use Dupont inks.
 
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Old December 9th, 2008 Dec 9, 2008 6:54:58 AM -   #13 (permalink)
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Default Re: No more White ink to DuPont white users

Does DDM plan to stop sale of printers with a white ink layer in response to the letter?
Could that mean used machines with white ink options bring a premium price?
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