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Old June 22nd, 2009 Jun 22, 2009 9:00:07 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Question photoemulsion

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mga sir tanung ko lng kung anu gamit nyo pangcoat ng screen, anung brand ng emulsion? tsaka meron po bang iba ibang klase nun? anu po ang d best kung meron syang variety

ilang coating ng emulsion? depende po ba sa design?
tsaka panu po sya mapapatagal ang buhay pag printing na, kahit lagyan ko ng hardener nabubutas pa din sya pag hinuhugasan, ang gamit ko pa ay yung sa j&j na color white at may kasamang powderd na sensitizer at yung hardener yung color orange din frm j&j dn

anu po ang brand na gamit nyo at bakit?
meron po ba kayo marerecomend tsaka tips din po sana

tsaka anung coater ang gamit nyo? size? gamit ko po yung sa j&j na 9inch coater, naghahanap po ako ng mas mahaba sana for bigger screens, may marerecomend po ba kayo?

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Old June 22nd, 2009 Jun 22, 2009 9:50:17 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Sir, Try nyo Emulsion ng J&J ung violet, mas mahal nga lang ng konti, pero i think mas ok kesa sa white nila, or you better try ung "Mixed" emulsion sa Rochas. 160 - 1/4 Kilo nga lang, pero mas Ok sha sakin kesa sa J&J.

Gnyan din problema ko ee. nabubutas ung emulsion and/or nasisira ung design pag hinuhugasan na.

try mo coater ng ROCHAS din. may 10'' dun for 165Php ata or 170 ^_~ bout sa hardener, d ko pa natry sa iba. pero base sa ibang tao, pangit daw ung hardner sa J&J ee. feeling ko gnun din. Hndi ako kuntento sa hardner nila
 
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Old June 23rd, 2009 Jun 23, 2009 3:33:10 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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maganda yung emulsion sa screenart..try nyo yung foteco na brand..mahal nga lang..nsa 800-1.2k ang price..kung naghahanap kyo ng mura2, marerecomend ko yung emulsion from multiprint..nsa 600 per kg..ok na ok sya and maganda ang water resistant nya and mechanical resistance..medyo ok din resistance nya sa mga solvent based na chemicals like screen opener..actually, un n lagi kong ginagamit and di ko sya ginagamitan ng hardener..
 
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maganda yung emulsion sa screenart..try nyo yung foteco na brand..mahal nga lang..nsa 800-1.2k ang price..kung naghahanap kyo ng mura2, marerecomend ko yung emulsion from multiprint..nsa 600 per kg..ok na ok sya and maganda ang water resistant nya and mechanical resistance..medyo ok din resistance nya sa mga solvent based na chemicals like screen opener..actually, un n lagi kong ginagamit and di ko sya ginagamitan ng hardener..

Sir, 1k na ba yang 600Php? What about the expiration? gano katagal? Need ko kasi ung magandang emulsion, problemado kasi ako sa screen ee. every print pnupunasan namin ung design para matanggal ung naka barang ink dun, then after few t-shirts. bumibigay na ung emulsion. tsk, I need to solve that problem pa. T_T
 
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yup..1kg na yung 600php..merong 2 klase ng emulsion sa multiprint..photoblu tx plus, ska photoblu tx blue..yung tx plus unsensitized pa sya..pede tumagal ng 1 year pag hindi pa sensitized..pero pag minix mo na yung diazo, 1-3 weeks lng ang shelf life..pde mong hatiin muna sa 2 yung emulsion ska yung diazo(powder) para hindi mo muna magamit yung iba..yung tx blue nmn e sensitized na..6mos to 1 year ang shelf life..wala ng halo2ng kailngan..diretso na sya sa coater then sa screen..depending sa takbo ng bizness mo kung ano maganda syong emulsion..kung mayat maya kng ngawa ng screens mag diazo ka..kung bihira mag tx blue ka..

yung pinagkaiba nmn ng exposure nila e mas critical ang time sa tx blue..unlike sa tx plus, mapasobra k ng 10 secs sa exposure unit (uv light) or mga 1-2 mins (halogen light) ayus pa..
 
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Old June 25th, 2009 Jun 25, 2009 8:09:06 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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mga sir galing ako recto kahapon, nagwindow shopping, hahahaha

binile ko yung violet sa j&j, mukang ok naman kesa sa white nila, yun nga lang ang sabi sa akin nung sales nila, pag hinaluan mu na ng sensitizer eh good for 3days lang kahit pa ilagay sa ref, kaya cguro ganun ang nangyayare sa mga screens ko before, kaya pag nagmix daw eh kung anu lng dapat ang macoconsume within 3days para safe

tapos meron bago bukas dun na store, kimco ba yun, tulco products ang carry nila, ang ganda nung squeegee nila grabe, hahahaha
 
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mga sir question lang regarding sa exposure, ang gamit kse ay halogen na 300-500watts, ang distance mula sa screen at image ay 20inches above, palpak kse yung una kong ginawa na exposure box, hahahaha, 4 na 100w na incandescent bulb yung pang bahay

ang exposure time ko 5-8mins pero pag fine details masmababa ang exp. time 3-5mins

ang question ko ay ganu ka detailed ang screen nyo pag wash out na? kung irate sa 10,
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10-closest sa image

yung akin nasa 6-7 ang rate, ang gamit ko screen ay 100mesh na nylon
 
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mga sir question lang regarding sa exposure, ang gamit kse ay halogen na 300-500watts, ang distance mula sa screen at image ay 20inches above, palpak kse yung una kong ginawa na exposure box, hahahaha, 4 na 100w na incandescent bulb yung pang bahay

ang exposure time ko 5-8mins pero pag fine details masmababa ang exp. time 3-5mins

ang question ko ay ganu ka detailed ang screen nyo pag wash out na? kung irate sa 10,
1-lowest
10-closest sa image

yung akin nasa 6-7 ang rate, ang gamit ko screen ay 100mesh na nylon
sa pag kaka alam ko, dpende sa mesh count ang details na makukuha mo, the lower the mesh count the finer the details. I haven't tried to use above #100 mesh count pa, so not really sure, un lang kasi pagkakasabi sa tutorial sa youtube, hehehe ^_~ as of now, ok nman details ng sakin, hndi pa ako gumagawa ng sobrang ma-detalye ee, ung sasakto lang sa #100 ^_~
 
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correction lang..the higher the mesh count the finer details of design that you can use..when you lower the mesh count, lumalaki yung butas ng screen kaya hindi sa makakahold ng fine lines na mas maliit dun sa butas..

sa screen ko nmn, kung ano iprint ko sa acetate yun nakukuha ko sa screen..so, 10 ang score ko..hehe
 
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correction lang..the higher the mesh count the finer details of design that you can use..when you lower the mesh count, lumalaki yung butas ng screen kaya hindi sa makakahold ng fine lines na mas maliit dun sa butas..
woops, uu nga, bakit nga pala "the Lower" nilagay ko, hahaha tama tama, the higher the mesh count the finer the details. nalito ako. hahaha ^_~
 
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salamat mga sir

ang gamit ko ay tracing paper lng, may kamahalan ang acetate pang inkjet

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salamat mga sir

ang gamit ko ay tracing paper lng, may kamahalan ang acetate pang inkjet

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LP ka din pala ^_~ hehehe. ako din tracing paper lang, I've tried acetate once palang, mas ok kasi mas mabilis ung burning time ^_~ mahal nga lang hahaha sa national pa ako nabilis, 100+ 10pcs for laserjet, 200+ 10pcs for inkjet, wooO! ahaha
 
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diba ang tracing paper kapag nasayadan ng ink eh nageexpand sya?

or depende sa ink?

napansin ko kasi yun ang dati kong gamit
 
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diba ang tracing paper kapag nasayadan ng ink eh nageexpand sya?

or depende sa ink?

napansin ko kasi yun ang dati kong gamit

uu, pag inkjet ginamit gnun, kaya sa lazerjet ako nag pprint pag tracing, base on my expi ah? ewan ko sa iba kung nag ssmudge sknila. lol. mas maitim nga lang pag inkjet ee. sayang ^_~
 
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uu inkjet ang gamit ko....


mas dark sya ang problema lang naexpand tsk tsk tsk
 
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