I need some advice. I'm trying to decide on which DTG Printer to get. I'm looking at the annajet, and I've talked to Mr. Karl and I like what he has said. Then you have Machine #2 The MS 1. I like that one also. The only thing is the Annajet I have to send my husband to the training class in Ca., and with the MS1 they come to our office to set it up no classes. Can you please help me with this. We do contract embroidery in South Louisiana, and really can't afford for 1 of us to be gone for 2 days. Any and all advice to help me decide which one to go with would be helpful. Thanks and God Bless.....
Thank,
Michelle
A & S Embroidery, Inc.
Abbeville, Louisiana
Before making the decision on which printer to purchase, the two of you should probably attend the SGIA Expo show in New Orleans in October. This way you could see all of the different printers in action and make a more informed purchase. We did this very thing at a show in Fort Worth and it was a very good move on our part. Also, it's only 60 days from now and considering the cost of a DTG printer, you may want to wait for the show to not only make a more informed decision, but you may get a show discount of several thousand dollars.
Thanks for the info. I thought about going, but you know men they are worse than us women. LOL just joking. He just wants to buy something soon and he doesn't want to wait since the Contract Embroidery is so slow. I've been talking to Karl at Annajet and we like what he's saying about the machine. I guess we will have to talk about waiting.
Had one hated it more than my ex Ha. sooo many issues but the new "sprinter" sounds like it is improvement but havent heard much about it. Just remember that ink cost is outrageous on machine. MD1 is cheaper I believer, also reember Epson base machines need alot of maintenance and them some, good luck with choice
I didn't have Sprint but previous model, yes good things you say?
I would look into the Anajet section on all complains about it.
Issues I had was:
The RIP Software was crap
Colors always off and needed so many adjustments
Ink cost is very High
Ink Cart. had issue of running out without telling you
Maintenance on machine was biggest pain in butt
Platen was way to small at 12 by 16 for many jobs
Black were never black
Photo's were a hit or miss
Countless other issues, but I will be fair by saying the "new sprint" has a larger platen but I would recommend getting a Rip from Multirip for machine and using white ink on Anajet is just a joke, at 4 to 5 bucks a shirt for ink alone plus 10min of time per shirt it is just not feasible for contract work.
I personally switched to a Brother and it is a dream come true, zero maintenance, colors are for most part right on without zero adjustments, tons of attachments ect.
I will say Anajet machine at the time were made halfa$$ and I have had over time countless people complain about there machine and ask for my help.
I know of 2 people who's machine just stop working all together and Anajet wouldnt do much for them, also Anajet has this great thing were when you wanna buy machine, they are right behind ya, but when it's sold, its good luck.
Another thing to know how great of a machine it is that, there are a bunch of people apparently suing Anajet for some of things I pointed out plus some.
I not saying Sprint is terrible machine, I have not had it but older model is just junk period, I had it for a year and I lost alot of hair and gained weight because of it.
All Anajet machine is, is a $600 printer in a new shell period.
I will say though, everyone of my clients that have gotten prints off the Brother loves them compared to Anajet, and they also say colors fade slower in washer : )
BJ is a rather vocal critic. However, I do not agree on his voracity, nor ALL the points he makes. Some may lead you to do more research and this is a good thing. I've had mine for over 2 years and I've had a good experience.
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The RIP Software was crap. The RIP was more simple than many. You can get the other RIP (I have it also), but Anajet doesn't sell it, so you'll have to train yourself.
Colors always off and needed so many adjustments. No so. Color managment is something that all DTGs have to gain an understanding on. Your pallete of colors is "compressed" from what you see on screen, so you have to understand how CMYK works to get the best of it.
Ink cost is very High Yes this is true. It is higher than if you bought ink in bulk and not in easy to use cartriges. You could always do it that way in the future, once you understand the costs and benefits of the bulk vs cartrige system.
Ink Cart. had issue of running out without telling you Yes , it's a simple (lo-tech) way of reminding you. Hight tech would cost more... it works OK
Maintenance on machine was biggest pain in butt Maintenance is a pain, but if you buy and white ink capable machine, and spend a few minutes per day and 1/2 hour at the end of the week, your good.
Platen was way to small at 12 by 16 for many jobs. Most affordable and cost effective prints will easily fit in this area. It just depend on your market.
Black were never black. If your artwork(and software) is set up properly and you understand how color works, black is very opaque and "black"
Photo's were a hit or miss. Not on my end. Anything on a t-shirt requires that you realize that saturation is different on a "matte" printing surface. Adjustment is easy once you learn.
: )
The new "sprint" has improved on the old strengths and added new functionality to the driver and RIP. Some of this functionality Anajet freely let's users uprade to. Service had been great on my end and if you look at the forum, I believe that you'll see the people who complain either didn't get it, or didn't do proper research and were too unhappy to recieve that good service. You are doing the right thing by checking the forums and getting more questions to clarify when you buy. Personally, I (and many, many others) do not think you could go wrong with this machine. Do your homework, ask good questions and make a good informed choice.
With the Brother all you do is file and print, with Anajet you gotta import file into RIp than make all kinda adjustments to get it someone what good, the RIP they provide is barebone cheapest thing out there and they told me that themselves.
Ink cost thing, well it ain't just really high cost of ink, also the need to do purges and headcleans on machine do add up quit quickly especially when using white ink, something that Anajet mentioned to me is that if you don't use white ink within 3 days don't bother using it because will dry in lines
well my issue with platen was its width, not length, 12" just don't do for words across chest, especially when I need to factor in that most clients order xl and 2xl with a tiny 12" print across, yes you can put horizantaly, but that can be a real pain, especially with larger shirts
Ain't issue with me setting up art when using black, I am aware of color management, even when I had it on Black/White setting, blacks were rubbish period
Again, I don't wanna put down the "Sprint" but previous model had to many issues
With the Brother all you do is file and print, with Anajet you gotta import file into RIp than make all kinda adjustments to get it someone what good..... Not true. You can print from any app that can see a printer.
.......something that Anajet mentioned to me is that if you don't use white ink within 3 days don't bother using it because will dry in lines. BJ, I doubt these are their words. Ink "dries" when in contact with air. This is the reason for closed loop system (same as Brother). If you are not using white ink on a regular basis (every day-other day) extra maintenance and waste is part of the game. Ink left in lines (any printer) not being used will settle. If you're not going to use it... you may loose it. If you do not have the business of the volume for white, forgo it or generate business for it in a way so you waste less.
well my issue with platen was its width, not length, 12" just don't do for words across chest, especially when I need to factor in that most clients order xl and 2xl with a tiny 12" print across, yes you can put horizantaly, but that can be a real pain, especially with larger shirts. This can be true. This is why you look at the specs before you invest, and quantify.....not become mad at the world after the fact, and go out and get another lease and another printer.
....can't you feel the passion....
Michelle, Don't get bullied one way or another. Anajet is great for me. For a few others...due to various factors "not so much...". Whomever you get your machine from, get the training and demand the service that you are promised. Do yourself a favor, go see the machines in action. Get samples. Understand "your" clients. You have to please them, not the guy you buy the machine from.
Thanks for what you said. I can tell you that BJ need to check the sprint out before bashing it. I know I asked about information on the Anajet, but if you have the older model then you shouldn't talk bad about something you didn't have the experience to operate. Every model is different that I did learn from my research. I can tell you the BROTHER will not work for me It will not to polyester. I will not do golfballs, and it will not do other things I want to do or should I say that what the BROTHER rep said. I have talked to almost every DTG dealer and the rep with Anajet is the only one that has been truthful with me. When I asked a question he answered it or if he didn't know ( which there wasn't much he didn't know) he found out and called me right back and it didn't take him long to get back to me. I want to say thanks to everyone that posted. I THINK I'M GONNA GO WITH ANAJET!!!!!!!
I want to also thank CRANEMAN for talking to me on the phone. I hope to do work with you soon....... Thanks to all.................
Michelle
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I didn't bash "new model" just older one which they still sell
I was just putting my input of what I think of company as a whole and not on specific models as well.
not a problem.... I just don't want someone to get the wrong idea when and if they read this. I always say God doesn't like UGLY, and he doesn't like LIERS. AS long as it's the TRUTH I have not a problem with what you said. I just want the right machine heck the price you gota pay you think the companies think we are all millionaires...... LOL.......
No hard feeling I hope Like I said thanks for the advice and the help....
Michelle
A Little hole in the wall TOWN!!!!!!!!
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We purchased the MS-One a few weeks ago and so far are very satisfied with the quality of the machine. The RIP software and support from MS have been excellent.
We took our time before going into production with 2 weeks of washability tests and comparisons to 4 complex screen printed designs.
The RIP is very good with large images on black shirts costing under 1.30 per print (11x14 test design, lots of white). So the software definitely makes efficient use of the underbase.
In regards to pre-sale vs post sale experiance, the information MS sent us before the purchase was accurate and spot on.
Our experience with Anajet was not very good on the other hand (the distributor we were in touch with was rather juvenile, I even considered posting the e-mail thread on here) but if you're in touch with other distributors you may have a better experience.
In regards to speed MS is solid with their estimates, ink cost estimates are also solid. Colors are spot on and support is competent.
The machines are build well. I would agree with the posters suggesting you check both printers in action, also calculate your per ml cost with cartidges vs bulk ink (MS) using 3-5 ml per print as a reference.
One advantage with MS is you have effective white ink recirculation and bulk ink management (ink turns out to be a fraction of the cost of Cartrigde based solutions).
Hope this helps
Cheers!
-b
The RIP is very good with large images on black shirts costing under 1.30 per print (11x14 test design, lots of white). So the software definitely makes efficient use of the underbase.
That is an incredibly low ink cost for doing a dark garment print (CMYK+White ink) on an 11" x 14" design. I am not saying your information is incorrect as I have never touched this specific RIP. But that number is lower than the cost I hear from the Kornit printers that has the cheapest ink cost in the industry. Are you familiar as to how this RIP does things different compared to other RIPs? So I am always interested in hearing ways to cut back on the white ink cost. Most of the other RIPs have the ability to greyscale the white underbase based on the color pixel above it. But in the end... you have to enough white ink to block out the color of the garment. Love to hear your feedback on this RIP.
Need Machine Advice 
I need some advice. I'm trying to decide on which DTG Printer to get. I'm looking at the annajet, and I've talked to Mr. Karl and I like what he has said. Then you have Machine #2 The MS 1. I like that one also. The only thing is the Annajet I have to send my husband to the training class in Ca., and with the MS1 they come to our office to set it up no classes. Can you please help me with this. We do contract embroidery in South Louisiana, and really can't afford for 1 of us to be gone for 2 days. Any and all advice to help me decide which one to go with would be helpful. Thanks and God Bless.....
Re: Need Machine Advice 
Re: Need Machine Advice 
Thanks for what you said. I can tell you that BJ need to check the sprint out before bashing it. I know I asked about information on the Anajet, but if you have the older model then you shouldn't talk bad about something you didn't have the experience to operate. Every model is different that I did learn from my research. I can tell you the BROTHER will not work for me It will not to polyester. I will not do golfballs, and it will not do other things I want to do or should I say that what the BROTHER rep said. I have talked to almost every DTG dealer and the rep with Anajet is the only one that has been truthful with me. When I asked a question he answered it or if he didn't know ( which there wasn't much he didn't know) he found out and called me right back and it didn't take him long to get back to me. I want to say thanks to everyone that posted. I THINK I'M GONNA GO WITH ANAJET!!!!!!! 
